Garand 8 rd question

One of the main reasons the Lee Enfield was given a pass in the magazine capacity department is the LE is very popular with aboriginal hunters in the north. Governments refuse to do anything that could be construed as picking on aboriginal hunters besides they would ignore the regs anyway as they should. There are places in Canada still where .303 ammo is practically currency.
 
the reason the garand was exempted was because of the en-bloc clip and the need to eject the same when expended- most owners didn't wish to modify their rifles for the 5 round enbloc
 
Hawkshadow said:
Marstar's site lists that they're out of the 5rd en-blocs.

Are they actually $7.50 a piece?! :eek:
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i should imagine so- there's a thing that called a sled that only allows one round and it's quite as expensive as well
the 8 rounders are cheap b/c they were issue, and therefore available as surplus
funny thing- the minute you mention "garand" and competition in the same sentance, the prices seem to magically inflate 10 fold- same thing with the words "national match"
 
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"...They were the original a-salt(SIC) riflies..." Nope. Neither is nor ever was an assault rifle. There have been exactly 2 assualt rifles ever made. The StG-44 and the AK-47.
The Lee-Enfield is specifically exempt because of the numbers of 'em being used by native hunters. The M1 because you can't shoot 'em without a clip. 2, 5 and 2/5 round clips notwithstanding.
Hunting with an M1 is legal where there is no 5 rounds only law, but they're heavy to lug around. Work up a load using 150 or 165 grain hunting bullets using IMR or H 4895, IMR4064 or Varget.
 
Any manual centre fire rifle can hold as many rounds as desired. There are no restrictions. This applies to all manual actions, not just Enfields.... or are we talking hunting regs here?
 
RUSTSPOT said:
Why didn't the law require pinning of garand and enfield or down right prohib them( since garand is pretty much useless without the clip and sorta unpinable) ,when they hold more than 5 rds. They were the original a-salt riflies.
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The Enfields are bolt action, so no mag limit. the Garand was exempted because the magazine is internal and (according to what I heard) could not be blocked without compromising the function of the rifle.
 
Five round clips sound reasonable EXCEPT what happens when you are in the brush and you get that ping, then try to find that expensive clip?;)

It's all "feel good" politics
 
Sardaukar said:
I guess this is the point when someone has to say that there are very, very rare Enfields that were built as semi-auto, most of them in museums now. Because of the very few semi Enfields all the Enfield mags would have needed to be pinned. That would have been utterly retarded, so an exception was made. That is why the Enfield is mentionned in the same regulation as the Garand.
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Actually, they weren't that rare. A company called Globco used to sell a semi .303 that was quite popular and fairly reliable. If I remember correctly, it looked an awful lot like and SVT40. Not sure if it used Lee Enfield mags or not, though. One of my uncles had one, and he killed an awful lot of moose with it. the he splurged and bought a Remington (I think it was the 760) semi, and had all kinds of trouble, but he had sold the Globco, so he ended up going to a Parker Hale bolt action 30-06.

BTW, I think the reason the M1 was given a pass is because it was (is) used in a lot of competitions.
 
John Sukey said:
Five round clips sound reasonable EXCEPT what happens when you are in the brush and you get that ping, then try to find that expensive clip?;)

It's all "feel good" politics
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Haha ya. I rather spend the 8 bucks on 8 rounds of 30-06 to have another "ping" or load up a 8 rd clip, hand cycle out a few rounds for more ping action per ammo used.

Thanks for all the info. I'll check the local bylaw for mag cap for hunting.
 
sunray said:
"...They were the original a-salt(SIC) riflies..." Nope. Neither is nor ever was an assault rifle. There have been exactly 2 assualt rifles ever made. The StG-44 and the AK-47..
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well, i to me,the main weapon that the infantry carries to fight their battles with is an assault rifle. its the rifle you assault your enemies with. i dont consider an fully automatic rifle is an assault rifle. it only means its fires fully automatic. if i decide to put 30 rounds into a buck with an ak47, itd be my fully automatic hunting rifle ;) those antis make the term assault sound too scary.
 
RUSTSPOT said:
well, i to me,the main weapon that the infantry carries to fight their battles with is an assault rifle. its the rifle you assault your enemies with. i dont consider an fully automatic rifle is an assault rifle. it only means its fires fully automatic. if i decide to put 30 rounds into a buck with an ak47, itd be my fully automatic hunting rifle ;) those antis make the term assault sound too scary.
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Huh?
 
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