Single Stack Division Caliber

.45 vs .40 for Single Stack Division ?

  • .45

    Votes: 44 73.3%
  • .40

    Votes: 16 26.7%

  • Total voters
    60
I am leaning towards a .40 SS STI Trojan,..just because the ammo is cheaper, and I like the STI brand.
 
If you're going to get a single stack, and it's going to be a 1911, then there's only one way to go in my opinion and that's .45ACP. Get the original that was originally meant to be fired by a 1911.

Yes, it's true that you increase your time and accuracy may suffer slightly due to the heavier recoil from factory ammo, but with some practice you'll get used to it in no time. It's even better if you reload because there are some very accurate recipes that will give you speeds of 800-900fps and still meet the power factors.

Keep in mind though .45 is not the cheapest round to shoot so if money is an issue then .40 will be the way to go.
 
9mm...with courses of fire the way they are these days I'd go for the capacity.

9mm would mean 'Minor' so let's see if yours is a common opinion.

At last year's Single Stack Nationals, barely 13.5 % (37 of 274 shooters) shot Minor.

http://www.uspsa.org/mr/stage_display.php?year=2010&match=2010_Single_Stack_Nationals&dir=Single_Stack&file=Pistol_Finals.dat

(and of those that show 'Minor' on the final results, some may have declared 'Major' but chrono'd 'Minor'. I don't have visibility on those stats)


Of the five GMs, all shot Major. Of the top ten finishers, only one shot Minor (B.J. Norris) and he came in sixth. Of the top five competitors shooting Minor, they came in 6th, 13th, 26th, 59th and 68th. So shooting 1911-9mm is hardly a 'winning setup'.

Of the 8 Area Matches conducted last year, the ratio of Single Stack competitors shooting Minor are similar (or worse):


Area 1 - 2 of 22 (9%) both of which were DQ'd
Area 2 - 7 of 43 (16%) with the top Minor shooter finishing 6th
Area 3 - 0 of 22
Area 4 - 0 of 13
Area 5 - 5 of 40 (12.5%) with the top Minor shooter finishing 20th.
Area 6 - 3 of 31 (9.6%) with the top Minor shooter finishing 5th. (Julie Golob)
Area 7 - 2 of 14 (14.3%) with the top Minor shooter finishing 2nd.
Area 8 - Can't find the data.

I guess in Single Stack 'capacity' isn't all it's cracked up to be.
 
40 - cheaper and easier to obtain ammo - you'll get more ammo downrange and more ammo downrange will make you a better competitor.

Also, I'm guessing that if IPSC implements the box for thier "single stack" division, it won't be long before someone figures out how to fit 10 rounds in a mag and still fit in the box. 10 40 cal rounds are 4.23", and my STI 45ACP mags are 4.7". Lots of room for innovation there.
 
tripp mags hold 10 rnds of 40 and fit :D :rockOn:
my USPSA SS that I'm building is a 40. A 9mm 1911 is a sweet ride, all the perks of the 1911 design and a fraction of the recoil
 
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If we ever get a single stack division off the ground it will have to compete on the same courses of fire as all the other divisions (unlike the single stack nationals in the US). To me, that makes the 10 round capacity of the 9mm very attractive.

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think the 10 round .40 mag from Tripp will fit in the box. Their 9 rounder is flush fitting.
 
Apparently the provisional SSD rules are written and going through the system for approval. According to Mr.Pinto they should be released in April.

I picked up a Trogam 9mm and a Spartan 9mm. If the 8/10 Major/Minor rule is there I am good to go otherwise I may go with .40's for SSD.


I didn't vote in the poll because it does not offer my choice :(

John
 
Who Cares? Single stack started the game and now it's relegated to the sidelines? Where is the logic anyway? Play the game the way you like, shoot A's and the debate is over, 9mm, .40, .45 - it's not a debate. Open up another division, if you want to compete in that division fine, choose your caliber and go. Shoot A zones and fast, you win. Shoot fast and miss, I don't care what caliber - a miss is a miss, you lose.
 
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