How much is a .44-40 worth?

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I have a kick ass .44-40 leaver action that looks like it was straight out of the wild west. Its fun to shoot and I think its the greatest thing ever but I was wondering if was worth much.
 
Make, model, condition of stock, metal, lands and grooves, functionality ect. are needed to answer your question, but since it's from the "wild west" I'd say it's worth about 1 billion dollars.;)

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Model 1892 Winchester

Patented 1884

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Hard to tell from one pic but looks like an okay old rifle. Looks like it may have what's left of original finish on the wood. Are the sights original? Is the bore good? Looks like a standard 24 inch rifle. If all original with good bore and no cracks in wood probably $600-$800, my 2 cents.
 
.44-40 M92 was the best bullfrog killer I ever owned. You aimed a bit below them in the water and suddenly they developed wings.:eek: Not much on deer though. I shot one with it, a solid hit in the lungs @ 100 yds which caused it to leak to death.:( Definitely an a$$-kicker on bullfrogs though.;)
 
That looks like an honest old Model 1892. I think Mike Webb's estimate on value is maybe a tad low, but that is just my opinion, which isn't worth anything more. If it is honest (i.e., no one has sanded and refinished the wood or used cold blue to fix up the blue, etc.) and if the bore is very good to excellent, I would say it would be worth at least $1,000 ....... at least that is what I would be willing to pay for a '92 like that in that caliber and in the condition mentioned above. However, I value is a hard thing to nail down. At the end of the day, it is what other people decide what they are willing to pay for it. I see lots of guns advertised at some hefty prices, but they do not sell. I tend to undervalue my guns, judging by how fast they usually sell and from the PM's of the people who weren't fast enough telling me I was crazy to let it go so cheap.

By the way, the 44-40 has taken an awful lot of deer in its heyday. I've only collected one deer, a 200 pound doe, with a 44-40, but I was impressed with the 20" of penetration it gave. I would recommend keeping shots under 100 yards, however.
 
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I was hoping for the million or billion people were offering me before the picture went up. I shot a black bear with it once at point blank range. I was soon wishing I had a .30-06 in my hands but after emptying the magazine he stayed down for the count.

The rifle has never been restored and there are no cracks. The barrel looks rusty in the picture but not in regular light conditions. everything is original including the sights.

I'm finding you have to know your stuff on here because the critics are brutal... ;)
 
Those were nice old rifles. The '92 action is way nicer than the '94 IMHO. Why Winchester chooses to put pistol rounds into a '94 is beyond me.

Two different loads. You wouldn't want to fire a full rifle load (originally 40 gr. BP) out of a handgun. Taking a chance on going boom in a bad way.

The CAS guys load about the max. revolver load and use that in the rifle as well, but not the other way around.
 
Two different loads. You wouldn't want to fire a full rifle load (originally 40 gr. BP) out of a handgun. Taking a chance on going boom in a bad way.

The CAS guys load about the max. revolver load and use that in the rifle as well, but not the other way around.

Would 40 gr. BP damage a revolver? Seems to me I used a load similar to that in a Walker Colt (replica) front-stuffer I had.

I would definitely be very wary of any smokeless load other than maybe Trailboss. That being said, I would have no qualms going after deer or black bear with a 44-40 within 75 yds., providing I was using a soft lead bullet. Nothing jacketed, that's for sure.
 
Those were nice old rifles. The '92 action is way nicer than the '94 IMHO. Why Winchester chooses to put pistol rounds into a '94 is beyond me.

Two different loads. You wouldn't want to fire a full rifle load (originally 40 gr. BP) out of a handgun. Taking a chance on going boom in a bad way.

The CAS guys load about the max. revolver load and use that in the rifle as well, but not the other way around.

That's not what I think he's talking about. The Win 94 was designed in order to accomodate longer cartridges (like the 30/30) that the Win 92 action couldn't - longer throw, action seems to "come apart out the bottom of the receiver", different (weaker?) lock mechanism, etc. When you chamber a Win 94 for a pistol cartridge, you have to suffer the much longer than necessary throw, and feeding is sometimes not as reliable.

Win 94 lovers, please don't be offended.
 
I was hoping for the million or billion people were offering me before the picture went up. I shot a black bear with it once at point blank range. I was soon wishing I had a .30-06 in my hands but after emptying the magazine he stayed down for the count.
Sounds like you were using anemic factory ammo. Winchester made HV ammo for the Model 92 that put a 200 grain bullet out the barrel at 1,600 fps. Much better than 1,250 fps like today's ammo.
 
That's not what I think he's talking about. The Win 94 was designed in order to accomodate longer cartridges (like the 30/30) that the Win 92 action couldn't - longer throw, action seems to "come apart out the bottom of the receiver", different (weaker?) lock mechanism, etc. When you chamber a Win 94 for a pistol cartridge, you have to suffer the much longer than necessary throw, and feeding is sometimes not as reliable.

Win 94 lovers, please don't be offended.

Oh. My bad.:redface:

Also, the 44.40 was used by my Fathers' generation to knock down many deer. The only reason the 'old guys' quit using it (in the area I grew up in) was because they passed the 'buck -only' rule, so the old guys bought guns that could take a scope so they could see what was growing out of the deers' head.:D
 
It looks like a nice rifle and the 44-40 chambering would be quite desireable. If it's in good shape mechanically and the bore is not pitted too much i would guess you could sell it in the $800 - $1000 range without too much fuss.
 
Sounds like you were using anemic factory ammo. Winchester made HV ammo for the Model 92 that put a 200 grain bullet out the barrel at 1,600 fps. Much better than 1,250 fps like today's ammo.

Does any maker load higher velocity .44/40 ammo or is this a handloading only proposition? I would imagine loading manuals are on the mild side due to the possibility the loads may be fired in an 1873 Winchester. The 1892 is much stronger and better steel, really a baby 1886.
 
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