45 acp with small pistol primers?

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I was excited to find a package of spent 45 acp casings that I'd forgot about. I was happy because I can't buy brass anywhere. This was a box I'd bought at a local sports shop and they were Winchester. So I happily decapped the 50 casings and was ready to put new primers in. I set up my primer installer on my Lee 50th Anniversary kit and put a primer in and pushed the lever down, only to find that the primer was not fitting in. So I looked a little closer and here the primer hole is too small! Have any of you heard of that? A 45 ACP with a small primer? So I went to Whole sale sports to buy some small pistol primers and the guy wouldn't even sell them to me, because he'd never heard of that before either and he said I'd better do some more research before I reload these. So any help or insight from any one out there would be appreciated!

Thanks in advance.
 
let me guess it was the winchester clean stuff ( I have some of those at home)

is it labeled WNT near the primmer pocket?

If it's the case they are smal primer
 
Small pistol primer .45 ACP brass has been around for quite a few years now. Winchester uses it in the their WinClean and I know I have seen it in other factory ammo as well, but I can't recall the brands right now. The guy at Wholesale should know that. At least I would hope he would know that.
 
you can reload them no problem. You will however have to ream the primer pockets to make the small pistol primer to fit.
 
which wholesale sports?- he'd better get himself an education real quick because 45acp with small pistol primers have been out for quite a while now, and i've even gone so far as to switch my 45acp press over to small pistol primers , mostly b/c brass is so readily available- you MAY run into a crimp on both winchester nt and federal, but that's easily removed- with the 1000, it was just a matter of changing the trough, pin and spring- as far as not selling them to you, just tell the BOZO it's for 9mm- there's no difference in the performance, and why didn't you pick this up in case inspection?
 
I'm really new

t-star said:
which wholesale sports?- he'd better get himself an education real quick because 45acp with small pistol primers have been out for quite a while now, and i've even gone so far as to switch my 45acp press over to small pistol primers , mostly b/c brass is so readily available- you MAY run into a crimp on both winchester nt and federal, but that's easily removed- with the 1000, it was just a matter of changing the trough, pin and spring- as far as not selling them to you, just tell the BOZO it's for 9mm- there's no difference in the performance, and why didn't you pick this up in case inspection?
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I'm very new at reloading, just started after Christmas, so pretty well everything is new to me.

Geof
 
ok, but the BOZO at the store should be more knowledgeable than that- but you should be INSPECTING any brass you get, esp RANGE BRASS- looking for cracks, gouges, half filled with sand, whatever- one of the favorite tricks brass likes to do is hide a 9mm inside something bigger- like a 45acp so it looks like a bottle neck case- if it decides to hide inside a 44 mag case or similar, you WON'T see it until you break your decapping pin
 
I've loaded the ones I bought by mistake with Winchester SP or SPM primers and the same loades I used in LP brass without a hiccup.
 
And remember: don't mix .45 brass with 9mm. The 9mm. fit inside the .45 brass and the space gets jammed with media, making removal very hard.
This goes the same with any combination of calibers where one fits inside the other.
PP.
 
Yup, 9mm enjoy mating with .45 acp. Even worse is the 3-some when you get .40 S&W involved. I cringe in disgust even thinking about it :p

I've been saving my small primer .45's that I find in my mixed brass for the last couple years. I'm up to about 50 of them so far. When I get to 1,000, I'll put them on EE for sale. Since these NT varieties seem to be getting more popular, I may not die of old age before then.
 
people seem to be happy leaving the small primer cases at the range. Im happy to pick them up, have a few hundred.

9mm and .45 is annoying to separate, but adding in .40 is a nightmare
 
what's really annoying is having a tube full of 9mm, with a 40 stuck in the middle- the only thing you can do is pull the tube and then pick up the brass
 
krausb said:
Small pistol primer .45 ACP brass has been around for quite a few years now. Winchester uses it in the their WinClean and I know I have seen it in other factory ammo as well, but I can't recall the brands right now. The guy at Wholesale should know that. At least I would hope he would know that.
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Yes, that's the brand--WinClean--you've got it.

Geof
 
luke s said:
people seem to be happy leaving the small primer cases at the range. Im happy to pick them up, have a few hundred.

9mm and .45 is annoying to separate, but adding in .40 is a nightmare
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I wish we shot at your range. Lately we're lucky to find even a few .45 acp here. We were first at the range this last weekend to pick up the entire winter's worth of casings because of our sudden snow melt. We picked up less than 100 .45s at 2 ranges - all large primers. Compare this to about 500 .40 S&Ws, and at least 3,000 9mm.

And it's not like fewer people are shooting 45 in that proportion to 9mm. More people who shoot .45acp reload than people who shoot 9mm (for obvious reasons). 45's also don't stay on the ground as long as 9mm even if the shooter doesn't reload. I've had to resort to buying .45 ACP on EE it's gotten so bad. Now I watch my spent cases like a hawk at the range like everyone else!
 
that's WHY i switched to 44 mag- i only got to takecare of 5-6 rounds at a time, and they don't fly off to never-never land- unless i'm using my wichester trapper
besides. i'm at that age where i don't see so well( spot poontang a mile away, though) but that darned front sight won't focus- and i don't LIKE to bend over
 
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