Antique regs from the horse's mouth

weldboss said:
The US definition of "antique" any antique be it furniture, firearm or a tin can, as recognized by the federal government, regulated by the customs department IS 100 years in age or older.

I am pointing out the fact that the under current Canadian law which came into effect in 1998, declared that an antique firearm would have to have been made prior to 1898. (There's that 100 years again)

Therefore I feel that the Law should be reflective of the time passed since in originally came into effect.
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Under US federal firearm law, to be an antique firearm, it must have been made prior to 1899. A firearm over 100 years old, but made after 1898 is subject to federal firearm law as far as sale, export, etc, are concerned.
 
But their has to be a defined time when all things reach a certain age for them to be placed in a proper category. Under the current definitions in the act, a firearm built yesterday would still be classified as new or modern, 75, 100 or 300 years from now
 
Yup. As the law is currently written, there is no sliding scale, with items becoming antiques with the passing of time.
 
weldboss said:
The US definition of "antique" any antique be it furniture, firearm or a tin can, as recognized by the federal government, regulated by the customs department IS 100 years in age or older...
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US Customs will not knowingly circumvent federal laws. They enforce US Federal and state laws which will include the Gun Control Act of 1968 among others with regards to firearms. Under US law a cartridge firearm manufactured after 1898 IS NOT classed as an antique and can only be transferred across state boundaries by Licensed FFL holders and requires a State Department issued export permits to be shipped outside the US.

Under the US Gun Control Act of 1968, antique firearms are defined as: ...any firearm with a frame or receiver manufactured in or before 1898 regardless of ignition system, or any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system, and any replica of an antique firearm if the replica is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire ammunition...

I know US Customs DOES follow the Gun Control Act of 1968 to determine antique status for firearms because they recently held one of my purchases being shipped via USPS. They pecifically requested proof of pre-1899 manufacture from the seller. As soon as they understood it was a PRE-1899 gun they released it back to USPS and it continued on to me.

The sliding scale for antiques would be great but it will never happen, either here or in the US.
 
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tiriaq said:
Yup. As the law is currently written, there is no sliding scale, with items becoming antiques with the passing of time.
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Yes thats true and it will never change because of all the nice SA hanguns that were invented and manufactured just in the 15 years past 1897.

The Antique collections would be pretty neat if there was a slideing scale that went to say 1911 being as its 2011 now.
Id have a nice collection of brownings and colt new service theres alot others there to that would be nice to collect registration free.

If the CPC gets a majority maby we can get a bill passed. ;)
Tho drawing attention to the antique Laws as they are will just get them tightened up not loosened is my best guess.

my MP John Duncan and i were talking on the phone a few years ago about getting more calibers taken off the stupid list back when he helped me get some guns back seized from Customs.
He offered to start a bill to change the list takeing off some cals like 44 40 and 45 colt.
I told him not to start the bill because they only had a minority and that things would just get worse for us not better once attention was drawen to the stupid list.
Nice that he offered tho.
 
weldboss said:
But their has to be a defined time when all things reach a certain age for them to be placed in a proper category. Under the current definitions in the act, a firearm built yesterday would still be classified as new or modern, 75, 100 or 300 years from now
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Yes, you understood that perfectly.

There is a defined time, and it's pre-1899 in the US and pre-1898 in Canada. And if the law is not changed, it will still be like that in 300 years.
 
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