buying a press out of the states?

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i was looking at different progressive presses and i have come to realize that the price is doubled when it comes across the line. are presses subject to the 100$ import cap or not? and also any input on recommended presses would be appreciated i have been looking at the lee four hole turret press it seems like a real good deal but i know that some feel lee is on the cheap end but i dont know if i want to spend over 500$ if i dont need to. as always thanks for your help.
sean.
 
I started off with a lee turret press with the auto index and it worked pretty
good. I used it to load ammo when I first started to compete and it was good
but eventually I needed a press that could put out more rounds. If you go with a
lee, stay away from that progressive 1000 they sell-junk. I went from the lee
to eventually getting a Dillon 550 and never looked back-
 
870supermag said:
i was looking at different progressive presses and i have come to realize that the price is doubled when it comes across the line. are presses subject to the 100$ import cap or not? and also any input on recommended presses would be appreciated i have been looking at the lee four hole turret press it seems like a real good deal but i know that some feel lee is on the cheap end but i dont know if i want to spend over 500$ if i dont need to. as always thanks for your help.
sean.
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I got my press out of the USA (Sinclair Intl) and I just had to pay the normal duty fees, but I'm sure there was no $100 import cap. I recall the day my press show up with a bunch of other reloading stuff it was only like $50 total duty.
 
Hi. Reloading equipment has no daft U.S. export rules. Components do.
"...the price is doubled..." Taxes, higher shipping costs and government interference causes it.
"...some feel Lee is on the cheap end..." It is, but you're not paying for the RCBS name or warrantee either. Lee kit will be completely serviceable. Warrantee just isn't as good. Two years vs forever.
Buying used kit isn't a bad idea. If you do, buy RCBS kit only. Their warrantee is on the kit, not who bought it new. They'll fix any problems with a phone call, even if you buy used.
 
well thats good to know i can get it shipped to ship happens and pick it up this makes it alot more affordable i will look at the rcbs i own a singel stage rcbs and its great.
 
"...get it shipped to ship happens and pick it up..." You can get it shipped to your house. You do need to expand on what ship happens is though.
Been using a single stage Redding for 30 some years with no fuss. Speed is a matter of technique.
 
i live right by the border ship happens is a company that gives you a po box in the stated and you go pick it up you still pay duty but i know alot of company charge more to ship to Canada. im loading pistol now and i need to bring the speed up i still use my single stage for rifle.
 
sunray said:
Hi. Reloading equipment has no daft U.S. export rules. Components do.
"...the price is doubled..." Taxes, higher shipping costs and government interference causes it.
"...some feel Lee is on the cheap end..." It is, but you're not paying for the RCBS name or warrantee either. Lee kit will be completely serviceable. Warrantee just isn't as good. Two years vs forever.
Buying used kit isn't a bad idea. If you do, buy RCBS kit only. Their warrantee is on the kit, not who bought it new. They'll fix any problems with a phone call, even if you buy used.
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Hi Sunray:
Just from experience with one of my presses about 2 months ago I bought in the US. You are right in what you are saying however you must never never indicate the press is automated. Only manual hand operated presses are OK to be shipped to Canada any automated ones or ones they think are automated with say air cylinders or hydraulic are not.
My progressive got tied up in customs almost 5 weeks based on what it was called and I was told in the future to clearly indicate on the forms. Manual hand operated only.
Take care
 
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3macs1 said:
Can only speak from my experiences and so far dies were no issue. Last ones just before xmas came up as classification no. 8479909090 Machinery Parts.:D
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Dies are not an issue either. Got most of my dies from Sinclair with no issue.

I think the issues begin when you get into components (brass, bullets, primers, powder) and actual factory loads. I heard that scopes are an issue. Can anyone comment on that?
 
Dies and presses are tooling so there is no problem with US customs with it leaving the US.

Scopes are a big no no and not aloud to leave th US without a permit
 
There are no restrictions on any reloading tools, from a 1050 Dillon auto-progessive press to a die-lock ring for an old resizing die. They are 100% uncontrolled.

Dillon, Mid-South Shooters Supply will both happily ship to Canadian customers. It isn't necessary to have any tools or reloading equipment shipped to Ship Happens unless you're going to see a dramatic savings in shipping costs.

All Made in USA products, including reloading equipment such as Dillon, are also "duty" exempt as per the North American Free Trade Agreement. All you will have to pay is the GST or HST on the declared value of the parcel's contents.

If you do buy from the US, make sure items are shipped via USPS and not couriers such as UPS or FedEx. They charge extremely high "brokerage fees" for bringing your items across the border. Canada Post charges a nominal, flat fee of $5.00 (it may have gone up a little, the last time I ordered from the US was last Fall) clear customs and collect the tax owing.
 
X-man said:
There are no restrictions on any reloading tools, from a 1050 Dillon auto-progessive press to a die-lock ring for an old resizing die. They are 100% uncontrolled.

I agree and disagree. You have to be careful with the description as I found out with mine.Mine was tied up 5 weeks state side. If they see it as an automated ammo manufacturing machine which is what they did with mine they are banned.
The words Manual Hand Loading" is the key. Got that right from the customs people.

This is the line they hit me with as being banned
*(d) Ammunition manufacturing machines and ammunition loading machines (except handloading ones).
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X-man said:
... It isn't necessary to have any tools or reloading equipment shipped to Ship Happens unless you're going to see a dramatic savings in shipping costs... If you do buy from the US, make sure items are shipped via USPS and not couriers such as UPS or FedEx...
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BINGO! Or you will see a dramatic ESCALATION of shipping costs, as many have found to their sorrow. For those living near the border, places like Ship Happens (gotta love the name) are a godsend. Just park on 2nd Ave., walk the few blocks to the border, three more blocks into Sumas, then back again. The $5.00 handling fee they charge is a pittance compared to having the stuff shipped into Canada, unless it's just somehing in a small envelope.

:) Stuart
 
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