what is this mauser?

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i bought three mausers today,one czech,one swedish and this one.it seems to be a commercial version,i don't know much about these so any infos would be appreciated.sure is a nice rifle with a flip rear sight which reminds me the ones on the .280 ross.the spoon bolt handle is interresting too.4 grooves barrel a bit frosted but strong rifling.any thoughts about the value?
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I've got one that looks remarkably similar. It appears to be a small ring, large shank mauser. Your's has a much more desirable spoon type handle. The soldered on sling attachment is almost exactly the same as well.
Mine is a scrubbed unit; w/ the military markings removed.
I think your's is Ex-military because it's got the notch in the left side of the reciever to facilitate stripper loading.
Nab's where are you...?
I'm in the midst of mounting a scope on mine; I'll be sure to post pic's soon. Repro SSR mount and Kahles scope.
If your's is scrubbed like mine, then feel free to modify at will as it cannot be restored to original glory. And that is right from Nab's ( who I consider to be quite knowledgable, polite & helpful; consider this a compliment ).
 
These are a post WW1 conversion by H Dorwal for export. I've seen several in Canada and I own one. I've own mine for some time and would expect you should be able to buy one of these bettwwen $400 - 500. They are a 98 large ring Mauser with the receiver ground to small ring or Kar98 size. Makes the stock very slim. Barrels are large ring and military turned to sporter profile. Bore is .318" so don't shoot any "J" ammo in it. Ron
 
JS is current 8mm cartridge. You need to have the bore slugged for size and do a chamber cast for safety. Select ammo accordingly. I've seen these converted to 308 and 6.5x55 by rebarrelling. Do not know what guys are doing for WW1 ammo...I've got a small supply I use and when gone the rifle will be converted (rebarelled). Ron
 
You have a very tastefully done sporter that, as others have mentioned was probably done after WW1. She has the old style "GERMANY" export mark on her barrel as well.

I have a feeling she may be an ex-Kar98 or an ex-Gewehr 98 but many of her military markings and attributes have been scrubbed and polished off. Is the receiver a large or small ring ? The receiver is definitely a M98 based action which was retained and used by the German military from the mid 1890s up to end of the 1940s so you have a very long track record of functionality and reliability.

The markings on the bottom of the receiver are worker and work type related markings of which the meaning and interpretation today has been lost to time.

Keep a close eye on parts like the the bolt stop, bolt pieces (even the firing pin) as not all military markings and/or inspection marks may have been removed completely. You may see a Gothic style letter underneath a crown which would indicate Imperial German military use at one point up to 1918. If you require reference pictures for what typical markings would look like, feel free to have a peak at the "Thinking about a Gewehr 98" thread near the top of the Milsurp board.

I really like the look at the spoon handle and rear sight set up, it was well thought out. The stock appears to be walnut and, like the work on the rest of the rifle, was well done.

As far as what you may shoot, I would slug her bore and perhaps pay a quick trip to the gun smith as there were a number of commercial oddball 8mm calibers in the 1920s that are obsolete now. The standard military cartridge was 7.92x57mm with a ~150 gr bullet for Germany just before and during WW1.

In any event, you have a very nice sporter that will get some real attention at the range from fellow shooters.

Thanks for compliment, tokguy ;).
 
thank you guys,lots of interresting infos here! Nabs,thanks for sharing your knowledge.here's a pic of the only marking i can see on the bolt,sorry for the bad quality,my camera sucks at close ups..
i was thinking about selling the gun but the more i learn about it and the more i take it in my hands,the less i want to sell it...
i have another mauser but czech made brno (czech K98 i think,will start another thread soon)with the same 8MM ugly markings on the barrel,where are these coming from?
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I don't recognize the marking on the cocking piece sadly. Does your camera have a "Macro" function ? You can use this feature to get close ups, leaving the image in high resolution when you download to your computer, and crop out the section you want. You will end up with a picture with small dimensions but really close up.

The 8mm marking on the barrel may be tied with the commercial proofing that was required for commercial sale or for export.
 
sorry nabs,i can't do better with this camera.this mark is very small.i took a look at the thinking of a gew88 post and didn't find this marking.
i can't wait to shoot that thing,i think i will take a ride to my gunsmith shop tommorrow for a checkup...:D
 
I'm wishing that my stock was in as good of condition as your's; and that spoon handled bolt is nicer too.
My stock had a huge crack in the wrist and someone had attempted to cut & fill the hole where the bolt disassembly disk was located; poorly I might add.
In order to hide the sawdust and glue filling I laid on the stain pretty heavy; gotta do what you gotta do, right?
But I finishing installing a German military (repro) SSR scope mount with a Kahles Helia 27 S1 this aft. I still need to fab up some shims as the scope was a 26mm body & the mount is 26.3mm. I shimmed it with some paper til I can do proper brass shims.
But while it is a bit of a high mount, the SSR is kinda neat. You can dismount the scope for travel in secounds with no tools.
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It was my first choice due to the shortage off small ring mounts for k-98's. The front ring swivels and the back ring has screws to aid in lateral adjustment. The dismount lever is a bit unweildy but it definitely adds character.
I just slugged my bore today but my gauge caliper is hiding right now, no test firing this aft:(
But I'll be keeping my eyes open for a nicely done stock like your's, that's for sure.
 
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These are a post WW1 conversion by H Dorwal for export. I've seen several in Canada and I own one. I've own mine for some time and would expect you should be able to buy one of these bettwwen $400 - 500. They are a 98 large ring Mauser with the receiver ground to small ring or Kar98 size. Makes the stock very slim. Barrels are large ring and military turned to sporter profile. Bore is .318" so don't shoot any "J" ammo in it. Ron
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Why did they choose to use .318" bores on this particular sporter?

I have 2 post WWI M98 sporters (one small and the other large ring) and they are both .323" bores. They both resemble the sporter pictured above - very typical style for the 1920's. Cheek piece, same swivels, flip sights, etc
 
also have one of these rifles 8 mm I got from a old timer he tells me he shot many deer
with it also had a box of remington bullets in 8 mm I have never shot it ,It was good to here all the goods on the tese oldies

Thanks
 
i went to my gunsmith and leave him the gun for mesurements,i'll will have the results this week.finally,i will sell this one,can't keep them all...:(
i will ask 450$ shipped.
 
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