.410 buckshot tighter patterns?

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Hey guys,

Would 000 buck pattern tighter from a .410 due to it's closeness in size to barrel diameter compared to, say, a 12 gauge?

That Dixie Tri-Ball load supposedly gets its accuracy because the shot is so close to 12 gauge diameter that it's basically an undersized slug. Would the same principle apply to 000 buck in the .410? Anyone have any experience here?
 
It's hard to find .410 buckshot around here. (I think that damned Taurus Judge in the states is suckin it all up)
The Winchester 3" 5 pellet 000 Buck I found a couple of years back Vertically strings it's five pellets in a string about 8" tall at 20yds out of my 18.5" M6 Springfield. Practically no horizontal dispersion. I would be confident shooting a large animal or assailant at that distance with a pattern like that.
 
"...due to it's closeness in size..." That has nothing to do with shot patterns. The choke determines the pattern.
A .410 buckshot load is very close to totally useless due to the number of pellets. Three '000' pellets in a 2.5". Five in a 3".
 
sunray said:
"...due to it's closeness in size..." That has nothing to do with shot patterns. The choke determines the pattern.
A .410 buckshot load is very close to totally useless due to the number of pellets. Three '000' pellets in a 2.5". Five in a 3".
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I thought the Tri-Ball stuff did less "rattling around" and deforming because of the bigger shot size and the shot cup basically turning it into a slug. Is that not the case?
 
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TheCoachZed said:
Hey guys,

Would 000 buck pattern tighter from a .410 due to it's closeness in size to barrel diameter compared to, say, a 12 gauge?

That Dixie Tri-Ball load supposedly gets its accuracy because the shot is so close to 12 gauge diameter that it's basically an undersized slug. Would the same principle apply to 000 buck in the .410? Anyone have any experience here?
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see www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=594331/highlight=410+buckshot
 
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I had okay results from an older Garcia Bronco in 410.
2 inch group of three 000 buckshot pellets at 15 yards. Emptied an Imperial 2 3/4 inch birdshot load and replaced it with the buckshot. IIRC, the choke is cylinder on those things.
 
I use to load 2 38 148gr wadcutter into a 3" shell with a little #6 on top to finish the crimp off, worked well in my gun at anything under 40 yards, the 2 wads tumbled about 2" apart at 25 and 4 to 5 inches at 40!
It was sure fun an cheap to shoot these fun loads at the range!

What is the purpose for ooo buck in a 410 anyway?

Makes a good defence load in the house, but thats not cosure here in Canada,LOL!
 
I've home loaded just about every combination possible for my 410, including buckshot. Its a waste of time and useful for almost nothing further away than 25 feet, in both pattern and penetration. A .410 makes a good chicken gun. Thats all its good for.
 
My .22/.410 M6 rifle is a Survival rifle.
It is about as versatile a weapon as you can get for 4.5lbs.
I usually have Buckshot, Slugs, 2.5" 7.5s, 3" 6s and 4s, as well as a variety of .22 ammunition in it's case, and it folds up to only 19" long.
The 000 Buckshot option, in particular the 5 000 3" ones add significant versatility. I would be comfortable in a survival situation taking a Caribou or Deer at close range with this load. It's also the only .410 load I would use for Bear defence. .410 slugs are too light and break up too easily.
I might add there are no grizzlies around these parts so Blacks are the only thing you've got to worry about
 
Brutus said:
The best 410 slug option is the Brenneke IMHO. Few merchants bring it in, so an enthusiast would have to order a minumum full flat from a licensed importer of other Brenneke products. Not impossible but this takes more cash & patience.
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I was at a gun show today and Brenneke .410 slugs were more common than 12 gauge Brenneke slugs. The going price was 12$ for 5 so they stayed right where they were.
 
diananike said:
I don't mind paying a bit of a premium for specialty ammo but 2x as much as they're worth is a total ripoff.
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They are really the only .410 load I would shoot at a deer. The Winchester rifled slugs work well enough for anything smaller.

I played around with some .410 000 buck but like all other large buck shot it is a novelty really. Sounds cool but not really useful.
 
Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
They are really the only .410 load I would shoot at a deer. The Winchester rifled slugs work well enough for anything smaller.

I played around with some .410 000 buck but like all other large buck shot it is a novelty really. Sounds cool but not really useful.
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I usually hunt deer with a .308 or at the minimum a .357magnum Marlin.

I'd be happy to pick up some good slugs for my Survival rifle, I'd probably never shoot an animal with them, but they'd be some good insurance.
I fly a lot in Northern manitoba, float planes and helicopters, the chances of us going down are pretty darned small but the M6 in my dry bag is still fairly comforting.
 
Turkeyslayer 1300 said:
Probably because alot of Ontario is shotgun or muzzleloader only, Alberta is correct me if I'm wrong all or nearly all open to rifle hunting.
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There are some zones near Calgary-Edmonton that are shotgun/muzzleloader/archery for deer, moose, black bear seasons.
But yes, you are right, for the most part Alberta is big game rifle friendly.
I am not conversant is some parks here allow and hunting with primitive weapons like some parks in Central-North Saskatchewan do permit.
 
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