Is bore guide needed?

yes u should.. ... the bore guide will stop the rod from rubbing back and forth on the throat of the chamber, over time this can oval out the throat and accuracy will suffer
 
Yes, for sure for the reasons noted above. I would recommend against the cheapest, budget ones unless you are up against it. They will protect your chamber but other have features that make life easier.

I like my Stoney Point because it has the an add on at the back end with an opening to pour solvent on your patch once it is inside the guide. Otherwise, if the patch is saturated before you put it in the guide, some will likely squeeze out when you insert it. This can then drip on your stock and mark the finish.

The Stoney Point also has different diameter adapters available to most closely fit the rear of the action, so the guide doesn't move around during use.

There are other good ones too, but I only have experience with the Stony Point.
 
You guys know a good online store? Only Place I see them is wss is a Dewey for $23. And they charge $20 for shipping which is Such a rip off!!
 
They have non in stock and could be over a month before he receives any. Would cleaning it with out one be a big issue for a month or two until he gets some in?
 
Dewey is actually a great outfit to deal with and they have quality stuff - including bore guides. You can order everything you need less the chemicals from that one site, and they have great prices.
 
i made one out of a 12 guage shell - it fits perfectly over the end of the m14 flash hider- but that's to protect the crown, not the chamber- if you look around you MAY find a viable substitute- maybe the shell of a syringe, or something- some of my stuff has come from the most bizarre of places-
 
I've got dewey, parker hale, some sinclairs and some home improvised guides. Probably some others if I look around a bit.

In the end, they don't do much more than stop the patch from falling off, though some do protect from dribbleing solvent into the bedding to varying degrees. Guides have a bigger inside diameter than the bore, or you'd never get a jag through it. Since it is bigger than the throat, it can't protect the throat from the rod. Its like useing a culvert to guide something into a garden hose.
 
Could you just just the back of a used case off and use that? Would that be sufficient?

I was thinking of using a cut off 243 casing in my 6br. Thoughts?

It's probably better than nothing, but a proper bore guide will protect the entire length of the chamber and reciever, and give you a nice guide for inserting the rod. Consider getting one with a port for adding cleaners/solvent. This helps prevent dripping stuff onto your stock's comb. Order one online -- probably at your house within 2 weeks.
 
I've got dewey, parker hale, some sinclairs and some home improvised guides. Probably some others if I look around a bit.

In the end, they don't do much more than stop the patch from falling off, though some do protect from dribbleing solvent into the bedding to varying degrees. Guides have a bigger inside diameter than the bore, or you'd never get a jag through it. Since it is bigger than the throat, it can't protect the throat from the rod. Its like useing a culvert to guide something into a garden hose.

Thats why Lucas bore guides have an insert that goes into the end of the guide. When u order one, u have to specify the diameter of the rod u are using. This prevents what u are saying.
 
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