Bullpup Firearms

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I came across "Bullpup" firearms for the first time last week and was intrigued by their design and the concept behind it. Not surprisingly most are prohibited in Canada because of their short showing barrel length apparently. But was surprised to see that firearms like the Tavor are allowed in Canada and fall under restricted. I wanted to know what "Bullpup" firearms are allowed in Canada and what makes a Bullpup restricted, non restricted or prohibited.

I would love to own one :D
 
Restricted would be determined by barrel length. The prohibition order specifies stocks (This caught me too when I first joined CGN). If you take a look at a Tavor, you'll notice that there's no stock per se, it's all receiver, unlike, I think the Vektor CR-21, for example. As for who makes the final call, that would be the RCMP. Sometimes they change their minds too, like with the Type-97s.
 
Ps90 (restricted due to barrel length, there are non restricted ones)
Fs2000 (restricted due to barrel length, there are non restricted ones)
Kel tec RFB (non restricted)
There are more... Use the search function.
 
fbeninati said:
what makes a Bullpup restricted, non restricted or prohibited.
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Same as any other rifle. Bullpup conversion stocks are prohib.
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For me, this never gets old.
 
fbeninati said:
I came across "Bullpup" firearms for the first time last week and was intrigued by their design and the concept behind it. Not surprisingly most are prohibited in Canada because of their short showing barrel length apparently. But was surprised to see that firearms like the Tavor are allowed in Canada and fall under restricted. I wanted to know what "Bullpup" firearms are allowed in Canada and what makes a Bullpup restricted, non restricted or prohibited.

I would love to own one :D
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tavor is non restricted dude.
 
I own an FS2000. It's the unrestricted model. What I notice most between this and my AR is its' total length. Even with an 18.6" (or 18.7" - can't remember) barrel, it fits nicely in my Beretta CX4 Storm Carbine soft case - with room to spare!! Also, the felt recoil is much less as the actual 'guts' of the mechanism is placed farther back in the firearm - right below your cheek - not out in front of your face. The ejection is cool too as it pushes the spent cartridges up and out the front right side of the rifle. A very fun rifle to shoot - a real subject of interest at the range as well.

If you can find one, pick one up. Once they're gone, I think they'll be gone.

Hope this helps.
 
Armourall said:
I own an FS2000. It's the unrestricted model. What I notice most between this and my AR is its' total length. Even with an 18.6" (or 18.7" - can't remember) barrel, it fits nicely in my Beretta CX4 Storm Carbine soft case - with room to spare!! Also, the felt recoil is much less as the actual 'guts' of the mechanism is placed farther back in the firearm - right below your cheek - not out in front of your face. The ejection is cool too as it pushes the spent cartridges up and out the front right side of the rifle. A very fun rifle to shoot - a real subject of interest at the range as well.

If you can find one, pick one up. Once they're gone, I think they'll be gone.

Hope this helps.
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:agree:

Just to add to this, the FS2000 is down to one retailer selling in Canada. Also, the FS2000 'Standard' (the model with the 1.6x optic) is being phased-out as I write this, so only the tactical model (with the aluminum rail) will be available. So, the price of the 'standard' is likely to rise, as they're rare to begin with (even in the US). However, it is unlikely that any more FS2000's are coming into Canada.. so if you can get one.. DO IT!
 
live4therut said:
Not if the barrel is less then 18.5"
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why bother pointing this out? every non restricted rifle can be made restricted by chopping the barrel short enough. its like saying the sky is blue or s**t makes the grass grow. every firearm owner knows this.


it is very true that the tavor can be made restricted. let me rephrase what i said in my earlier post then. the tavor is non restricted when you buy it. you have to buy the short barrel for it to be restricted.
 
fbeninati said:
just wondering if anyone owns or have fired a Bullpup firearm? and does it fire differently? to conventional firearms?
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I love my bulpups. These bad boys are all non-restricted.

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Here is a good photo to show you the advantage of bulpups.

On the bottom is a 16" barrel AR with the stock fully extended.

On the top is a Kel-Tec RFB with an 18.5" barrel, which makes the firearm non-restricted.

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fbeninati said:
I wanted to know what "Bullpup" firearms are allowed in Canada and what makes a Bullpup restricted, non restricted or prohibited. I would love to own one :D
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These are the bullpup design firearms available (not necessarily readily) in Canada. These are classified as restricted or non-restricted based on barrel length.

• IWI Tavor 5.56mm; non-restricted (restricted barrel available)
• FN FS2000 5.56mm, standard or tactical; restricted (non-restricted barrel available)
• FN PS90 5.7x28mm; restricted (non-restricted barrel available)
• Kel-Tec RFB .308; non-restricted
• Beretta CX4 Storm 9mm/.40SW/.45ACP; restricted (non-restricted barrel available)
• Desert Arms Tactical SRS .308/.338LM; non-restricted (precision, bolt-action)
• Ingolf DSR-1 .308/.338LM; non-restricted (precision, bolt-action)

The Steyr AUG and T97 are expressly prohibited by law.

fbeninati said:
just wondering if anyone owns or have fired a Bullpup firearm? and does it fire differently? to conventional firearms?
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Yes, they do fire and operate differently than say black rifles (certainly compared to conventional firearms). The charging handle is usually far forward, the ejection system varies (on a few it ejects forward) and the magazine release is typically well back. They can be more or less accurate, but they're all definitely louder (since you're closer to the chamber). They're a blast!

Ebola said:
why bother pointing this out? every non restricted rifle can be made restricted by chopping the barrel short enough. its like saying the sky is blue or s**t makes the grass grow. every firearm owner knows this.
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Because as every firearm owner should know, doing this instantly makes your gun *prohibited* - and you go directly to jail. You're only option is to use a shorter factory barrel or have one manufactured from a barrel blank.
 
@Kevin M. Is that a QBU-88 for the top pic? If so, where did you get it? I'd love to get one if possible...
 
Ebola said:
why bother pointing this out? every non restricted rifle can be made restricted by chopping the barrel short enough. its like saying the sky is blue or s**t makes the grass grow. every firearm owner knows this.


it is very true that the tavor can be made restricted. let me rephrase what i said in my earlier post then. the tavor is non restricted when you buy it. you have to buy the short barrel for it to be restricted.
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It is very obvious, and why point it out? Be cause your first quote was partly right and wrong That's why, thanks for rephrasing and providing better info to the op's question
 
avroe said:
Which Model is this?

It's ###y.
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Desert Tactical Arms - Stealth Recon Stealth. Has the .388 barrel on it right now. Looks near identical with the .308 barrel, just a few inches shorter.

Brordo said:
@Kevin M. Is that a QBU-88 for the top pic? If so, where did you get it? I'd love to get one if possible...
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Nope. You are either refering to the Kel-Tec RFB or the DTA Stealth Recon Scout depending on which pic you are refering to.
 
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