.223 vs deer?
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Hunting deer with a 223 can be done but I do not personally recommend it I have shot over 20 Sitka blacktail with my 22-250 and all were bang flops but I shot them in the neck just below the head and kept shots to 100 yards...
If you like the Ruger Mini so much how about looking at a Mini 6.8 SPC or a Mini 30 these are able to shoot bullets that have a bit more punch = same basic rifle but far more capable round.
I don't even like using 223 on coyotes beyond 150 yards so have an issue with hunting larger deer with this anemic little cartridge.
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If you like the Ruger Mini so much how about looking at a Mini 6.8 SPC or a Mini 30 these are able to shoot bullets that have a bit more punch = same basic rifle but far more capable round.
I don't even like using 223 on coyotes beyond 150 yards so have an issue with hunting larger deer with this anemic little cartridge.
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.223's are used for deer culling because if you are not too picky on shot placement they will drag themselves into deep brush to die.
That way their bones will not be left in the field to pierce tractor tires.
Some provinces have enacted laws to make people hunt with suitable equipment, looks like we may need another law in Ontario.
Yes, Ontario needs more laws that accomplish nothing other than to inconvenience hunters and shooters....
Oh goody, a "223 for deer" thread...again.
Yes, they will work (shot placement blah blah ad nauseum dry heave random dead deer.jpg), and so does that 22 LONG that we routinely put behind the ear of the bison when we butcher (shot placement bang flop, DRT blah blah verbal diahrea random dead bison.jpg).
So don't.
Yes, they will work (shot placement blah blah ad nauseum dry heave random dead deer.jpg), and so does that 22 LONG that we routinely put behind the ear of the bison when we butcher (shot placement bang flop, DRT blah blah verbal diahrea random dead bison.jpg).
So don't.
I had always thought you needed at least a .270 in Ontario, but can't seem to find it in the regs. Just indicates it has to be a centrefire rifle. I have been borrowing a buddy's.308 the last 4 years or so for deer season. I guess if he takes it back then I may give it a try with my .223. Either that or I'll pick up my own .308. Our farm is in an archery only area, but have permission to a couple other farms that are in rifle areas, and 1 with a controlled shotgun season. Guess that's why I have a crossbow, shotgun and rifle
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I had always thought you needed at least a .270 in Ontario, but can't seem to find it in the regs. Just indicates it has to be a centrefire rifle. I have been borrowing a buddy's.308 the last 4 years or so for deer season. I guess if he takes it back then I may give it a try with my .223. Either that or I'll pick up my own .308. Our farm is in an archery only area, but have permission to a couple other farms that are in rifle areas, and 1 with a controlled shotgun season. Guess that's why I have a crossbow, shotgun and rifle
Definately not. Centrefire cartridge is the only restriction. Both .243 and 6.5x55 are very popular rounds in ON.
Both the calibres I have. Never lost a deer I shot with 243 (that's only two)
but I definitely would not use 223.
100 gr in 243 win is the minimum I would use since I don't buy premium bullets.
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Why?
I see the smilie but it is a fair question.
The extra weight of that a 100 gr bullet has over a 55 or 62 gr bullet, if you
hit a rib or leg or your shot is not optimal (like a long quartering shot).
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Dukester;5698686 looks like we may need another law in Ontario. :eek:[/QUOTE said:Yes...that's exactly what we need....more Government
Gotta love the 22 CF Deer threads....they sure come out of the woodwork.
No, the premium ones cost more.
I asked my gunsmith (Jason @Gunco) about this whether I should get premium bullets for 243 win and he said "Don't bother deer don't take a lot of killing".
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The current Ontario rule leaves it up to the hunter, so if you use
223 you should be using premium bullets then.
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Personally I think the 22lr is a little light.
They did not request the lower jaws blown off so we didn't blow any off.
They did ask for bigger calibers and unskilled shooters.
so that the wise guys from Kingston could be included.I don't see what you find so unusual about culling with a .223 or head shots. The animals are butchered and sold so why would you want them all shot up and the meat wasted? If there was a better caliber for that job, it would be used. It isn't rocket medicine. It's point and shoot and make sure the bullet and target get to the POA at the same time. Even a caveman can do it with a pointy stick.
Pathfinder
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We need to start a 243Win for moose thread!
If you hunt deer with 223Rem why not hunt moose with 243Win
Im pretty sure that's been done in the last year, We need to find new combinations.
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How about Buckshot for Bison?
Just kidding. OP, go to 24hrcampfire if you want info about .223 for deer. Lots of guys on there using it; I think it's particularly popular in Texas (and gaining popularity here in NB, thanks to our stupid caliber restrictions for varmint hunting - I know there's a lot of guys out there shooting deer with .22 Hornet, .223, and .22-250, although some of that is for a second deer for their uncle/aunt/cousin, which is illegal. I met a poacher last year who told me he shot over a dozen deer with a .22 Hornet. Wish I could have turned him in - for the poaching, not the caliber choice, which is legal)
Just kidding. OP, go to 24hrcampfire if you want info about .223 for deer. Lots of guys on there using it; I think it's particularly popular in Texas (and gaining popularity here in NB, thanks to our stupid caliber restrictions for varmint hunting - I know there's a lot of guys out there shooting deer with .22 Hornet, .223, and .22-250, although some of that is for a second deer for their uncle/aunt/cousin, which is illegal. I met a poacher last year who told me he shot over a dozen deer with a .22 Hornet. Wish I could have turned him in - for the poaching, not the caliber choice, which is legal)
Personally I think the 22lr is a little light.
They did not request the lower jaws blown off so we didn't blow any off.
They did ask for bigger calibers and unskilled shooters.
I don't see what you find so unusual about culling with a .223 or head shots. The animals are butchered and sold so why would you want them all shot up and the meat wasted? If there was a better caliber for that job, it would be used. It isn't rocket medicine. It's point and shoot and make sure the bullet and target get to the POA at the same time. Even a caveman can do it with a pointy stick.
Your opinion on the 22 carries as much weight as when you say the .223 is a good deer round.
Now you are caveman pointy stick expert too.
Better go get the muck out boots on, you are laying it on pretty thick.
Where can I read something credible on these culls of yours?
