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Hey fellows
What say you on the number of rounds down the pipe until a patch of solvent is needed to maintain supreme accuracy?
Thanks FS
 
if the rifle has under gone YOUR break in procedure (lets not turn this into a break in thread) then clean when you start to see accuracy drop off.

persoanlly after each range trip i wipe it all down with g96 to prevent corossion, but i figure every 100-150rnds it gets cleaned
 
I wipe clean the bolt face and chamber after every shooting session. The barrel gets pulled through after a couple hundred rounds.
 
thats surprising that you guys wouldnt clean the barrel after each visit. i kjnow i read on here that you can only clean it so many times before its essentially a paper weight. but im very analand like to keep my guns cleaned and oiled when not using them. especially the barrels. if i know im not going shooting for more than a couple weeks ill give them a good coating of oil on the inside. but you guys are saying its fine to not clean the things all the time? just the bolt face and thats about it? what about running a patch with cleaner on it to get any residue off and then oiling it? but avoiding using the brush?
 
Max Owner said:
I would suspect the kind of answers you will get will depend on............

Rifle.
Bullet.
Powder.
Bullet coating.

And the positioning of the sun in relation to the hypotneuse of the triangle.
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Hey Max
Are your other 7000 post as helpful and as insitefull as this contribution? FS
 
Modern powders and primers leave a residue which do not harm the bore, so if you keep moisture out you will not need to leave oil in the bore.
I don't competition shoot any more but I would clean my centerfire rifle anywhere from 10 rounds to 40 or 50. If I changed loads using a different powder I would clean first. I don't know how much truth is to it, but I think there is a possibility that different powders foul the barrel differently and it is better to clean the barrel between powder changes. At least that is what was related to me many years ago.

If accuracy drops off and the barrel has shot a lot - clean it. Remove the copper fouling and start over... more than solvent on a patch...
 
my Idea on this thread

New barrel????
After each shot first 5
then after every 3rd for 20 rounds then after every 10 for about 50..
then after each session in tuning loads..
Older barrel????After load is found!
Each time gun seems to loose its edge "groups start to open up".
This is "gun and load dependent", some guns after each 100 rounds some after as many as 1ooo or more..
I start every time out with a wet patch of Kroil oil prior to first shot of the day....
I use only Kroil oil and JB's for cleaning and I don't over do it......In my competitive shooting experience Ive seen guys truly wear out barrels by cleaning clean barrels to death.
But its good for the Barrel business.
SST
 
Fassteel said:
Hey fellows
What say you on the number of rounds down the pipe until a patch of solvent is needed to maintain supreme accuracy?
Thanks FS
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I have a few rifles. Not one of their cleaning routines are the same.

Some barrels foul very quickly and I clean after every 20 rounds. When the accuracy starts to fall off. Others are fine after 50 so I normally clean them when I get home.

Also some of my rifles shoot well from a clean barrel and others from a well fouled barrel.

I can’t answer your question because you have to find the answer for each of your rifles.
 
uchi said:
thats surprising that you guys wouldnt clean the barrel after each visit. i kjnow i read on here that you can only clean it so many times before its essentially a paper weight. but im very analand like to keep my guns cleaned and oiled when not using them. especially the barrels. if i know im not going shooting for more than a couple weeks ill give them a good coating of oil on the inside. but you guys are saying its fine to not clean the things all the time? just the bolt face and thats about it? what about running a patch with cleaner on it to get any residue off and then oiling it? but avoiding using the brush?
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If you clean properly with out rubbing the cleaning rod on the bore you won't damage the barrel. If you pull the brush back over the crown you will ware the crown. Also if you pull the rod and jag back over the crown and the jag catches on the crown every time you might do damage.

I clean some rifles very often. They need it to shoot well.

I use a bronze brush. I don't see how a brush will hurt the bore.
 
I am a TR shooter and have won weekend Agg's with over 800 rounds down the barrel without cleaning. No need to clean the barrel until the groups start open up.
 
Probably because it is what my Dad taught me to do back in the 1960's, I clean all my guns after each shooting. Usually with precision rifles I spray "wipe-out" or similar down the barrel then go to the gym or whatever and an hour or so later run patches down the tube until they come out clean. Rifles are then put away till the next weekend. I rarely, if ever, use a brush on the barrel of a precision rifle.
 
Fassteel said:
Hey Max
Are your other 7000 post as helpful and as insitefull as this contribution? FS
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Apparently you are too smart for this forum.

With the exception of the last line, it was a serious post.

We could both have the same make and model of rifle and good chance they would be different. Add other variables as different bullet manufacturers. Different quality of copper jacket. Metal content in jacket. Some powders burn cleaner than others. And molly coating........

I thought you had some experince in life but I guess you don't.
 
Max Owner said:
Apparently you are too smart for this forum.

With the exception of the last line, it was a serious post.

We could both have the same make and model of rifle and good chance they would be different. Add other variables as different bullet manufacturers. Different quality of copper jacket. Metal content in jacket. Some powders burn cleaner than others. And molly coating........

I thought you had some experince in life but I guess you don't.
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Haha :)

You give the guy the best advice possible and he gives you sh*t for it.

I wonder what his almost 3000 posts consist of...

I guess we can tell him the secret.

Here is how it goes. Shoot your rifle 37 times. No less and no more. Then run 13 wet patches for good luck. Then brush it 7.5 times. Patch it out and oil the bore with used motor oil. It has to have been run in a Chevy for 24,896km no less and no more. Then your ready to go shoot one hole groups.

That will make any rifle shoot one hole groups all day long. Any day of the year.
 
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