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i bought my first M-14 today and i got a little scared when i read the owner manual.
norinco recommend using only nato rounds to prevent "slam fire"and i know that some people shoot factory ammo and want to know is it "safe" (read ok)enough to shoot remington 150gr core-lokt.
i also plan on reloading using cci primer witch are harder.

thanks for the help!
 
There is a lot of information on here for reloading for this rifle just do a quick search. There used to be a great article on the Mystic precision web site but the link seems to be broken now. Before I started reloading for mine I shot Remington 150 grain no problems. .What I've learned so far (I am far from an expert) the most important thing when reloading for this rifle is to choose a powder with the correct burn rate to prevent damage to the rifle. Biggest advice I've gotten to prevent slam fires is to ensure primers are seated correctly and to ensure rifle is properly maintained, ie ensure all the cosmoline is cleaned off. Best advice I've gotten has been from guys like Hungry and M14 Doctor these guys have a tonne of experience with these rifles and are more then willing to help out guys just getting started.

Best of luck
 
There is a lot of information on here for reloading for this rifle just do a quick search. There used to be a great article on the Mystic precision web site but the link seems to be broken now. Before I started reloading for mine I shot Remington 150 grain no problems. .What I've learned so far (I am far from an expert) the most important thing when reloading for this rifle is to choose a powder with the correct burn rate to prevent damage to the rifle. Biggest advice I've gotten to prevent slam fires is to ensure primers are seated correctly and to ensure rifle is properly maintained, ie ensure all the cosmoline is cleaned off. Best advice I've gotten has been from guys like Hungry and M14 Doctor these guys have a tonne of experience with these rifles and are more then willing to help out guys just getting started.

Best of luck

thank you freerider!
my biggest concern is "slam fire" possibilities, i'm left handed so i don't want one of those blowing up right in my face.
now i know i can a least try my rifle before i can get some appropriate ammo and proper reloading component.

dos anybody shoot only factory ammo? if so what brand
 
The only two I've tried thus far in my 09 Poly are Remington UMC 150gr and Winchester SuperX 150gr. I've counted 2 FTE's out of a total of 240 rounds. (I know, I don't shoot enough :p)
 
I shoot factory ammo only (Winchester,Remington,Hornady) up to 168gr. I also want to reload, like said above the right powder is key and like you I to am a lefty. Just make sure your bolts firing pin isn't wedged or jammed forward with a piece of brass, gunk or cosmo and you should be fine. So enjoy it and fire away
 
mickfcpk said:
There is a lot of information on here for reloading for this rifle just do a quick search. There used to be a great article on the Mystic precision web site but the link seems to be broken now. Before I started reloading for mine I shot Remington 150 grain no problems. .What I've learned so far (I am far from an expert) the most important thing when reloading for this rifle is to choose a powder with the correct burn rate to prevent damage to the rifle. Biggest advice I've gotten to prevent slam fires is to ensure primers are seated correctly and to ensure rifle is properly maintained, ie ensure all the cosmoline is cleaned off. Best advice I've gotten has been from guys like Hungry and M14 Doctor these guys have a tonne of experience with these rifles and are more then willing to help out guys just getting started.

Best of luck

thank you freerider!
my biggest concern is "slam fire" possibilities, i'm left handed so i don't want one of those blowing up right in my face.
now i know i can a least try my rifle before i can get some appropriate ammo and proper reloading component.

dos anybody shoot only factory ammo? if so what brand
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I have used

PMC .308 147gr FMJ 100 rounds
PRVI 308 145gr FMJ 200 rounds

no probs with these

I now reload using military brass, CCI BR2 primers and IMR 4895 powder, 150gr fmj hornady.
 
lol, with reload???

thanks for the info all,i'm giving it a go this week-end if weather permit.
.....well screw weather i'm going anyways
 
"...the owner's manual..." Hi. All of 'em say no reloads or commercial hunting ammo. Some of 'em, SA Inc. for one, go as a far as voiding their warrantee if reloads are used. It's just a CYA thing for them. If some bone head reloads incorrectly and blows up his rifle, he's not going to be able to blame the manufacturer.
Slam fires are caused by improperly loaded ammo, usually primers seated too high, not the rifle. You don't need CCI "milspec" primers either. Those are just a brilliant marketing gimmick for magnum primers. They're not any harder than any magnum primer. Regular large rifle primers will be fine. So will Remington 150 grain hunting ammo.
 
I use both Remington and Winchester super-x to (sort of) replenish deplete brass inventory. I reload mine. Since the bolt is not as tight as commercial, I leave about .005" on the case from full resize, but I do trim the neck. Just have to work out the math.

I have had no stovepipes, fail to fire, slam fire....basically no problems with mine. And I have a HUGE inventory of brass.
 
arcaner said:
Are you not the one with the exploded m14 ???
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not so much exploded as broken bolt. the reload wasnt the prob as the recovered brass was fine, my prob was not installing the Boyce stock properly.
I replaced the bolt and I have now made the changes to the stock and op rod guide

I never come close to max powder when reloading, and with military brass, I drop 2gr to account for the extra brass thickness
 
"Slam fires are caused by improperly loaded ammo, usually primers seated too high,"

by this you mean the prime is not seated deep enough in the primer pocket?
the primer is not flush with the case?
 
well...nothing blew up in my face this afternoon,so thats good news.

i was a little timed restraint so i had just enough time to do a quick test.
first five round test land right on paper about one and a half inches under bulls eye a 30 yards. i need to reset the elevation but the windage is right on.

i manage to get just over 2 inches @100 yard witch is about average (2-4") according to most people here a CGN.

i did however had 2 "flyers" that landed way over the target, so i think it's either my error,i'm not use to iron sight, or the gas tube,
when i got home i disassembled everything and noticed that the gas tube plug was not really tight and the gas cylinder need shimming, the gas lock start to tighten at around 9.
i know i can get shim kit at marstsar but is there any substitute that i can get in hardware store?

a butt pad would be nice to!
 
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Hmm ammo ive tired ..

PMC bronze 147 grain fmj
PRVI 145 grain fmj
Hornady TAP 155 grain and 168 grain ballistic tip
Remington core lokt 150 grain soft point
federal blue box 150 grain soft point
winchester super x 150 grain soft point
winchester super x 180 grain soft point
winchester super x 180 grain silver tip soft point
Remington UMC 147 grain Fmj
Winchester PHP 150 grain bonded hollow point
Sellier and bellot 180 grain fmj
MFS steel cased 150 grain commercial .
South African 150 grain surplus

Not a single issue with any of these in my rifle and No fte or ftf in 400 rounds .
 
A lot of great information in this thread.

I handload for the M14 and suggest using nothing but the CCI primers. With that said, make sure you clean out the primer pockets good and when you primer the brass, that they are about 0.003" below the face of the brass (where the little letters are stamped). You can easily determine this by either using a set of verniers or holding the brass so you can look across the face, or running your finger across the primer. Get yourself at least one handloading manual (i suggest getting them all hehe) and read the semi-auto section (most have one). They will give you good tips for loading for a semi-auto firearm.

Be advised though, if you press too hard while setting the primer, it could crush it slightly causing a Failure to Fire.

Also, I have gotten into the habit of checking the face of my bolt every so often while shooting to be sure no little flakes of brass get caught in the fireing pin channel. And every so often, I will find flakes of brass caught in the hole. This could potentially cause the firing pin to get caught sticking out, causing a slam or out of battery firing. So every so often, check the firing pin hole on your bolt and if there are any brass pieces in there, just get them out with a toothpick, etc.

Shoot safe! And remember to have a little fun ;)
 
It's called liability. They try to make sure their ass is covered. It doesn't matter how stupid proof they make something, there is always someone dumber, and they are the ones most likely to sue. I bought a bag of pistachios just recently, and it had an allergy alert on it. It said WARNING CONTAINS PISTACHIOS.
 
great post! thanks slushee!

do have trouble depriming and resizing your brass? i already broked 2 decaping pins and 1 stuck case witch is a pita to remove.
 
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