7.62 X 39 Steel Case Litter

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I can understand the shooters of these cases not picking not picking them forward of the firing line when the snow is deep, but wonder why they leave the winter accumulation for weeks after the spring melt has exposed them? None of the folks I see shooting these cases appear to be handicapped so it is difficult to understand the accumulation. Today, I picked up about 12 gallons of 7.62 X 39 steel cases from just forward of the firing line. With all the negative publicity that Ranges get, I would think that all shooters of "rapid fire" rifles would be doing everything they can, to avoid negative attention.
 
The only reason I may miss the odd one is that my CZ and SKS throw them out in every direction. I clean as many as I can find in 5 minutes, and leave it at that.

Not everybody cares as much though. They don't bother cleaning it up if it has no value.

My club built an awesome bar magnet with wheels for the surplus steel cases. Works wonders for cleaning up the steel case brass.
 
My Range has a policy that you don't have to pick it up if your not taking it home, now in saying that its a private range, with members cap'd and we pay someone to come and pick up the trash casings .
 
What the hell does "negative publicity" and "rapid-fire rifles" have to do with guys that don't pick up their garbage?

Good on you for cleaning up your facility. I do the same thing. Steel-cased ammo is easy and fast to clean up with a wheeled magnet.
 
JEC said:
I would think that all shooters of "rapid fire" rifles would be doing everything they can, to avoid negative attention.
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JEC said:
I can understand the shooters of these cases not picking not picking them forward of the firing line when the snow is deep, but wonder why they leave the winter accumulation for weeks after the spring melt has exposed them? None of the folks I see shooting these cases appear to be handicapped so it is difficult to understand the accumulation. Today, I picked up about 12 gallons of 7.62 X 39 steel cases from just forward of the firing line. With all the negative publicity that Ranges get, I would think that all shooters of "rapid fire" rifles would be doing everything they can, to avoid negative attention.
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Sounds like someone is a bit of a fudd...what about all the 1000s apon 1000s of .22LR and 12g hulls I see at EVERY range?
 
Why don't you just ban "rapid fire" rifles and then you can have a fuddtopia? Or maybe try the wheeled magnet thing and leave one at each range with a big sign saying "milsurp shooters, please use wheeled magnet to pick up steel cases".

Or better yet, ditch that ridiculous voice recording you have that phones members and then asks people to stay on the line and hold for an important message.
 
What is really worrying is when you go to use the pistol range and find yourself stepping on lots of x39 cases. I understand the police train with 5.56 at our range... Not sure they use SKS or CZs though...
 
Until the Angels Fall said:
Sounds like someone is a bit of a fudd...what about all the 1000s apon 1000s of .22LR and 12g hulls I see at EVERY range?
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Sounds like someone is a bit of a tool.

Yes, I've noted the same thing at every range I go to, and I've burned my share of x39 in the past, but I always cleaned it up. A lot of 22 year old rejects think somebody else should pick up after them, and as they're likely still living at home, their parents probably do. Not hard to understand how they get that way I guess.

7.62x39 messes will disappear soon enough as the ammo dries up and surplus shooters are forced to buy brass, commercial ammo again. That day is coming.
 
Our range banned steel case ammo for two reasons not only do the shooters typically not pick up their ammo, they don't pick up the broken bottles and shot up fire extinguishers etc,and the rapid fire combined with real poor muzzle control by mostly newbies is just plain unsafe. This is a broad stroke comment but in reality applies to a good portion of the sks shooters unfortunately. Ranges get shut down for many reasons, and unfortunately it just so happens that fuddery is what keeps some open. My 2 cents
 
dizzy said:
Our range banned steel case ammo for two reasons not only do the shooters typically not pick up their ammo, they don't pick up the broken bottles and shot up fire extinguishers etc,and the rapid fire combined with real poor muzzle control by mostly newbies is just plain unsafe. This is a broad stroke comment but in reality applies to a good portion of the sks shooters unfortunately. Ranges get shut down for many reasons, and unfortunately it just so happens that fuddery is what keeps some open. My 2 cents
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That sounds like a great way to keep your range open and tidy, in the short run. And to kill the sport in the long run.

Banning is way better than education or holding offenders responsible.

Edit: And how exactly do you enforce a ban on a type of ammo if you're unable to catch offenders in the act?
 
blasted_saber said:
People are lazy, thats why.

Simple, really.
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I agree. I don't think it is the age of the person or a specific type of rifle that causes it. It is the type of person and their level of respect for other people and something that is not theirs.

And I don't agree with banning a rifle or case type to solve a problem like this. I just don't really like the word "Ban" at all really.....:(
 
This whole thread is a worthless waste of time. Of all the issues facing us right now, this, is of mention?

Catch the offenders and hang them by their toe nails.
 
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