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I picked up half a can of 30-06 clipped up for Garands. I don't regocnize the head stamp, can anyone id for me?

DA 52 and 62 (dominion arms?) any idea if it's corrosive?

also in the can IK 857.62mm

and,, (grab bag i know) L C 6 5 arranged 90 degrees around rim

finally, some RWS, fired all of that yesterday, at least what went off, had some duds in that stuff.

There's something to keep the ammo gurus pondering about this fine sunday!
 
Doesn't get any more succinct than that, John....... or any more accurate.

Canada did adopt the Garand rifle in limited numbers, during the Korean War, kept them around for some time. We used to use the .30-'06 round also in all those M1919-A4 machineguns we had on the Shermans. The Dominion Arsenal turned out really good stuff in that department. Primers were Boxer, noncorrosive, nonmercuric, brass was great.

What I really don't understand is people banging off ammo that they don't know about.... and then asking. Few years ago I was at a machinegun shoot. One of the guys shot off several mags from his Bren, left the brass on the ground. Being essentially a hamster or a crow (and thus fascinated by shiny objects), I picked it up and came rather close to a cardiac arrest: he was shooting off Lindsay Arsenal 1917 by the mag...... and it was terribly hard for a collector to find even a single round. Another guy banged off half a mag of Canadian-made Dum-Dums (Mark IV) at five bucks a shot, back about 20 years ago. It all had shown up in a big batch of dirty surplus that sold for a dime a shot and nobody had bothered to check the headstamps. I was given 5 boxes of the stuff a a Christmas present and filled 35 spots in my .303 collection out of only 100 rounds!

Know your ammo. Check it before you shoot it. And be prepared to run into the occasional very hard-to-find round: they are still out there.
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I've used a lot of DA55 and DA62 in my Garands over the yrs. We used to get issued this in belts for the .30 cal BMG. It is acceptably accurate, non-corrosive, and functions well. As a bonus it is boxer primed and reloadable after removing the primer crimp.
 
That Dominion arms stuff is great. My father bought tons of it back in the mid 1960's (commercial packed but WWII headstamped). Some of that brass he is still reloading and probably the first 15 or so big game animals I ever shot had a bullet fired out of a WWII Dominon Arms 30-06 Brass shell.
 
Cocked&Locked said:
LOL :redface: i buy it to shoot. If i see something i consider odd, i find out BEFORE i shoot it, but if nothing jumps out at me, bang it goes.....:shotgun:
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It pays to be careful. Within the last 8-10 yrs there were several lots of the Korean surplus PSA headstamp .30-06 M2 ball that were defective. Cases would split longitudinally on firing which is not a good thing. I picked up some of these fired cases, along with boxes identified with the lot number, on the range so it obviously didn't trouble whoever shot it.:eek:

Some lots of the PSA ammo were very good and very accurate. I tuned up a friend's Garand in Arizona a few yrs ago and was amazed at how accurate it was. There was a list of the known bad lots going around on the 'net at some point. Back in Army days this would have caused an immediate quarentine and disposal of the faulty lots.
 
I was amazed to hear my step father say he used the Garand in Germany in the 1950s, or was it Metz....hmmmmm anyway, for Air Field perimeter defense. He was also trained and they were given the BAR?
He told me an american Infantry sergeant gave them a lecture on the Garand and BAR. He's 80 this summer and probaly haven't spoke of this with anyone in years , but said "I recall one click on that rear sight, was one inch @ 100yds! "

Purple, what happened to the Canadian Garands and BARs he spoke of? Were they lend-lease or purchased?
 
The RCAF did use BARs and Garands for airfield defence on our NATO bases in Europe in the 1950s. I used to shoot with an Air Force MP who had done this duty at the time (He also had a nifty MP40 sans paperwork that we used to shoot). I don't know about the terms of aquisition or eventual disposal though. The RCAF maintained it's own logistics system separate from the Army until integration in 1968.

A friend has personal knowledge of Garands and parts being held at the Army maintenance/supply depots in Longue Pionte (Montreal) in the 1950s. The thinking is that these were left over from the Canadian aquisition of US small arms in 1945 to equip the 6th Cdn Inf Div for the anticipated invasion of Japan. Word is that the parts were eventually sold to Denmark and that some Cdn marked packaging appeared among the stuff imported from Denmark with the Garands in the 1990s. The full story is lost in the sands of time.
 
purple said:
The RCAF did use BARs and Garands for airfield defence on our NATO bases in Europe in the 1950s. I used to shoot with an Air Force MP who had done this duty at the time (He also had a nifty MP40 sans paperwork that we used to shoot). I don't know about the terms of aquisition or eventual disposal though. The RCAF maintained it's own logistics system separate from the Army until integration in 1968.

A friend has personal knowledge of Garands and parts being held at the Army maintenance/supply depots in Longue Pionte (Montreal) in the 1950s. The thinking is that these were left over from the Canadian aquisition of US small arms in 1945 to equip the 6th Cdn Inf Div for the anticipated invasion of Japan. Word is that the parts were eventually sold to Denmark and that some Cdn marked packaging appeared among the stuff imported from Denmark with the Garands in the 1990s. The full story is lost in the sands of time.
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Wow a little twist on the Canadian Garand that I wasn't aware of till he mentioned it this summer after telling him I had just received a new Garand sight.

Would be interesting to find out serial numbers and such to know if some of those Danish rifles I see on the EE were actually in Canadian service in the 1950s. It would raise its value for me.

To bad there's not personnel from that era in the service as members on here, to give details on those Garands and BARs. They would be approaching or 80 now. Or maybe there are??

He's got some good stories about the Base in Metz and when France pulled out of NATO and the subsequent chaos. But that would be for another thread.....
 
RememberTheSomme said:
Wow a little twist on the Canadian Garand that I wasn't aware of till he mentioned it this summer after telling him I had just received a new Garand sight.

Would be interesting to find out serial numbers and such to know if some of those Danish rifles I see on the EE were actually in Canadian service in the 1950s. It would raise its value for me.

To bad there's not personnel from that era in the service as members on here, to give details on those Garands and BARs. They would be approaching or 80 now. Or maybe there are??

He's got some good stories about the Base in Metz and when France pulled out of NATO and the subsequent chaos. But that would be for another thread.....
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AFAIK all of the Danish rifles were either obtained from the US or from Italy where the Breda and Beretta Garands were made. I was talking about spare parts provided to Denmark from Cdn sources.
 
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