Lee-enfield stock repair

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I have a Parker hale custom no. 4 with a split in the little piece of wood in the back part of the fore-stock. The part where the long thin bolt goes through. My question is what is the purpose of this little piece of wood an the bolt. Can I glue the piece of wood on each side so it is permanently attached to the two sides of the stock?

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Cody
 
A picture would help, I'm not sure I get what you are trying to say, Buffalo Bill. Are you talking about the cross-bolt, which helps the stock be tight on the action, preventing the stock from spreading apart and splitting?

Lou
 
Lee Enfield cross bolt

I have a Parker hale custom no. 4 with a split in the little piece of wood in the back part of the fore-stock. The part where the long thin bolt goes through. My question is what is the purpose of this little piece of wood an the bolt. Can I glue the piece of wood on each side so it is permanently attached to the two sides of the stock?

Thanks,

Cody

First of all, look at the left side of your receiver and tell us the markings on it. Better still, post a picture of this area, and also of your stock problem.

If you have a Number 4 Mark 1 or Number 4 Mark 1* rifle, then there should NOT be a cross bolt in the rear of the stock. There should be a cross strap which is rivited in place. On these rifles, the trigger is pinned to the trigger guard.

Later conversions of the Lee Enfield had the trigger attached to the butt socket, either by brazing on a bracket or manufacturing new receivers with the bracket for the trigger made into it.

Now for the big question---which type of receiver do you have. Is the trigger pinned to the receiver butt socket, or is it attached to the trigger guard?

If your rifle has the trigger attached to the trigger guard, and your forestock has a screw through the back of the forestock, then it is possible that someone has replaced the forestock with a later one designed for the No.4 Mark 1/2, Mark 1/3 or No. 4 Mk. 2 rifles.

If there is a small block of wood that falls out, it is possible that the above scenario has happened, and someone has added a filler block of wood to fill in the space. This is likely, as a filler block would not fit into the area if your Number 4 was a later converted trigger system model.

If your rifle has the trigger pinned to the trigger guard, I would either replace the forestock with a proper one, or simply rough up the area where the block fits, rough up the sides of the block, ) using sandpaper, clean the areas thoroughly, and epoxy the block in place.

If you are talking about a crack in the rear of the forestock in the trigger area, then that is referred to as "the damned crack." It results in vertical shot stringing if the stock is cracked there. By all means, glue it together as above.

Your description of a bolt through the forestock is a bit confusing, and many people mistakenly give incorrect terms to parts more experienced gun nuts recognize. This is why we need better descriptions and pictures especially, otherwise we have to guess at something.

Best post some pictures though, so we can see what you actually have.

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I have 2. One is a Longbranch mk.1* turned into a Parker-Hale Custom No.4. The other is a BSA Mk1 turned into a Parker-Hale Supreme No. 4. In Ian Skennerton's ".303 British Rifle No.4" handbook (2006) pg. 28 it would appear that what i referred to as a 'thin bolt' he calls the "stock, fore-end, tie-plate, rivet". I took some pictures with my iPad but realized I could't upload them without an external URL. On my guns, if you un-thread the little bolt the middle third of the wood falls out as a separate piece. On one of my guns that had split and I've glued it back together. I'm now wondering why it is a separate piece and why have the thin bolt hold it all together? Why not just glue the little wood piece in place? While I'm at it this is all part of a re-finishing including sharpening the checkering and glass-bedding of the action. Does this sort of work, on a Parker-Hale sporterized Lee-Enfield belong in this section or elsewhere. And while I'm at it if anybody has advice for glass-bedding a Parker-Hale No. 4 it'd be appreciated. Thanks, Cody
 
Buffdog:

Just re-read your post after posting my latest reply and I think you nailed it as in a Mk.2 fore-end placed on a mk. 1 and a mk. 1*. In which case I should just glue the piece in place. That also helps me understand why the darn little bolt was there in the first place. When I read the descriptions of the various No. 4 the little bolt was making me think I had a mk. 2 but the receiver was marked otherwise and the trigger was hung on the trigger guard not the receiver. I'm guessing Parker-Hale had a supply of sported stock made up which could fit mk.2 but adapted to others with the addition of the little block of wood. Anybody out there know for sure?

Thanks, Cody
 
Stock repair

O.K. It appears that they did indeed use the Mark 2 forestocks. In that case, for a quick fix, I would clean up the inside areas and the areas on the wood, make sure they are not oiled, and epoxy the wood in place. It would seem that they put the wood in as a spacer because they recognized that it should have been solid, and the wood spacer might help prevent cracks in other places. Check the area in front of the magazine opening where the bolt goes through and see if it is cracked too.
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