How rare is the HK UMP?
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Ar180shooter
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I still suspect it's an issue exporting them from their country of origin... but if it was a Canadian side problem, what agency is stopping them from being imported? CBSA? CFC?
Bought my UMP .45 for $7000.00
Enjoyed it for a year. Sold it for $7000.00 to a great CGN gun nut. Fun little gun. Hard to get replacement parts if you break it.
Not intended for people who need to be counting what it cost them. At least, not in this country.
Here's pics of the old girl enjoying some sunshine on my deck. Gratuitous gun ####...
Worth the money? Depends what $10k means to your toy budget. Some guys feed their Quad .50 with $100k budgets for the yearly Knob Creek MG shoot. Others are guys are too busy collecting helicopters and sports cars to dicker with low rent toys like ours.
I drink $100 a bottle Scotch and think $270 for Blue Label is pricey but worth it when you want to leave the right impression. Wealthier guys than me pop $15k for a bottle to make a much finer point. Does it make them careless with their money? Is the Scotch even better tasting with rarity? Or just something to be enjoyed typically only by those in another income bracket altogether? I say its the latter case. My 'daily drinker' is not a rich man's dram, but a $26 bottle of Grant's. Tastes as good or better IMHO, and has worked well economically in post-bankruptcy years (my employer's) while rebuilding my own ventures.
But some things you enjoy all the more simply for knowing that most people never will.
$10k is a fair bit for one gun. But with only 12 of them in Canada AFAIK (10 movie guns -- this one was one of 2 others), it is a figure that needs some context. I got mine in a windfall year that saw nearly $30K in new guns into my cabinet. Truly the best of successful years for me (not necessarily something I nor you should ever confuse with real career achievement).
And then I sold mine. For practical reasons no involving money. I replaced it with 2x Sigs (Carbine and CQB). Never looked back. FWIW, the CQB offers more in an equally sized package for less.
But my neighbor has one. And so do some of my friends. And some people on CGN. And so on. And so on. For some lucky few, that is simply not acceptable.
Enjoyed it for a year. Sold it for $7000.00 to a great CGN gun nut. Fun little gun. Hard to get replacement parts if you break it.
Not intended for people who need to be counting what it cost them. At least, not in this country.
Here's pics of the old girl enjoying some sunshine on my deck. Gratuitous gun ####...
Worth the money? Depends what $10k means to your toy budget. Some guys feed their Quad .50 with $100k budgets for the yearly Knob Creek MG shoot. Others are guys are too busy collecting helicopters and sports cars to dicker with low rent toys like ours.
I drink $100 a bottle Scotch and think $270 for Blue Label is pricey but worth it when you want to leave the right impression. Wealthier guys than me pop $15k for a bottle to make a much finer point. Does it make them careless with their money? Is the Scotch even better tasting with rarity? Or just something to be enjoyed typically only by those in another income bracket altogether? I say its the latter case. My 'daily drinker' is not a rich man's dram, but a $26 bottle of Grant's. Tastes as good or better IMHO, and has worked well economically in post-bankruptcy years (my employer's) while rebuilding my own ventures.
But some things you enjoy all the more simply for knowing that most people never will.
$10k is a fair bit for one gun. But with only 12 of them in Canada AFAIK (10 movie guns -- this one was one of 2 others), it is a figure that needs some context. I got mine in a windfall year that saw nearly $30K in new guns into my cabinet. Truly the best of successful years for me (not necessarily something I nor you should ever confuse with real career achievement).
And then I sold mine. For practical reasons no involving money. I replaced it with 2x Sigs (Carbine and CQB). Never looked back. FWIW, the CQB offers more in an equally sized package for less.
But my neighbor has one. And so do some of my friends. And some people on CGN. And so on. And so on. For some lucky few, that is simply not acceptable.
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The ones in Canada are all FBI Trigger group. (Safe-Semi)
AFAIK the batch that came into Canada was original test sample for RCMP whom chose not to adopt the UMP and G36. The best evidence I could think of was the H&K G36P all the acroymns... Heckler&Koch Gewehr36Polizei aka Rifle 36 Police.
RNicholls, so you're talking about HK Germany - believe it or not HK USA doesn't have a relationship with RNicholls (can't say I blame them, hard to be high speed-low drag when your importer is all drag, all the time))
I had heard they were brought in for a movie, after which the prop house sold them which was a violation of the deal they had with HK.
