Tell me about the C7-A1.

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Alright, gonna save up for my first (probably not last) AR after I pay of at least most of the CC. I am going to grab a Stag Arms 4 from Arms East. I was originally thinking of going all tactical but decided to save that for a build later down the road.

So, I decided that i might try to throw together the C7A1 clone. (I like the overall look of the A1 over the A2)

So, tell me what I need to know to make a fairly convincing clone. (Depending on how NEA's AR turns out I might eventually way out the parts so its more Canadian with hopefully a nice big maple leaf on the side)

Thanks.
 
not much really involved in a C7-A1 clone, fixed A2 buttstock, railed flat top upper receiver and 20" bbl. Right hand only controls and a two stage trigger. are the typical and most important bits. There's not much out there to replicate the C79 scope though, which is IIRC 3.4x28. I'm using a Millet 1-4x32 on my C8 clone.
 
What is your intent?

I went with a Stag 2R with the heavyest 20" barrel profile I could get. Put an elcan on it and voila.

Well that lasted less then a year.

So go ahead if thats what you want, but I think you will quickly go in another direction unless you have a specific plan in mind.

My best advice is to go to a local DCRA shoot or tac/fun shoot and ask around to try diffeent set up to see what you like.
 
An Elcan (lots of places can order you one)and a Tri-Rail (One Shot Tactical has 'em)? The Stag already has the proper barrel (normally the hard part), maybe green furniture?

C7A1 doesn't have the Triad rail or the green furniture.
 
If I recall, the C7A1 is basically an M16A4 clone that is FA instead of 3 rd burst. Also, the C7A1 uses a 14 slot weaver rail instead of a mil-std M1913 rail, but there's not much you can do about that.
 
fixed A2 buttstock,

Er...I believe it's actually an A1 buttstock but with an A2 buttplate...the A1 stock being 5/8" shorter than the A2 stock. I think this was done because the A1 is a more normal infantry rifle length, and we do a LOT of shooting with parkas on. There was a lot of complaints among US military competition shooters when the extra long stock was found to be only of use in prone position, not so great when offhand or kneeling.
 
Wikipedia

C7 and C8
Canadian Forces Reserve infantrymen train in urban operations with C7 and C8 rifles.Main article: Colt Canada C7 rifle
The Diemaco C7 and C8 are updated variants of the M16 developed and used by the Canadian Forces and are now manufactured by Colt Canada. The C7 is a further development of the experimental M16A1E1. Like earlier M16s, it can be fired in either single shot or automatic mode, instead of the burst function selected for the M16A2. The C7 also features the structural strengthening, improved handguards, and longer stock developed for the M16A2. Diemaco changed the trapdoor in the buttstock to make it easier to access and a half-inch spacer is available to adjust stock length to user preference. The most easily noticeable external difference between American M16A2s and Diemaco C7s is the retention of the A1 style rear sights. Not easily apparent is Diemaco's use of hammer-forged barrels. The Canadians originally desired to use a heavy barrel profile instead.

The C7 has been developed to the C7A1, with a Weaver rail on the upper receiver for a C79 optical sight, and to the C7A2, with different furniture and internal improvements. The Diemaco produced Weaver rail on the original C7A1 variants does not meet the M1913 'Picatinny' standard, leading to some problems with mounting commercial sights. This is easily remedied with minor modification to their the upper receiver or the sight itself. Since Diemaco's acquisition by Colt to form Colt Canada, all Canadian produced flattop upper receivers are machined to the M1913 standard.

The C8 is the carbine version of the C7.[48] The C7 and C8 are also used by Hærens Jegerkommando, Marinejegerkommandoen and FSK (Norway), Military of Denmark (all branches), the Royal Netherlands Army and Netherlands Marine Corps as its main infantry weapon. Following trials, variants became the weapon of choice of the British SAS.
 
the wiki is missing the CS (Colt Short) stock option on the C7's (and C7A1)

CF desire was to give troops the same options as the FN for buttstock lengths.

I've also seen double long spacers used for some of the taller CF members for rifle drill...
 
the wiki is missing the CS (Colt Short) stock option on the C7's (and C7A1)

CF desire was to give troops the same options as the FN for buttstock lengths.

I've also seen double long spacers used for some of the taller CF members for rifle drill...

It has a "S" stamped on it -
 
Well, I would like to assume that was done for the parade square only.

Nope...
I have seen many guys on the range with them. Keep in mind that this was before going on range with frag vest and plates...

Tried one once, just to see the feels. Pretty comfy in prone, but found it useless in all the others shooting position
 
Er...I believe it's actually an A1 buttstock but with an A2 buttplate...the A1 stock being 5/8" shorter than the A2 stock. I think this was done because the A1 is a more normal infantry rifle length, and we do a LOT of shooting with parkas on. There was a lot of complaints among US military competition shooters when the extra long stock was found to be only of use in prone position, not so great when offhand or kneeling.

Nope, the CS stock was A1 length but made of A2 materials and buttplate. It was optional and only those who found the full length A2 stock to be too long had it installed on their rifle.
 
What the hell is an A1 length with A2 material and butt plate? The A2 has the standard green telescopic butt with either that stupid rubber recoil pad or just flat knurling. On another hand, all (or mostly all) the guys in 1 RCR in Kosovo got their butts replaced with the small when they realized that 9 of 10 shoys were taken from the standing or kneeling with frag, LBV and often a coat on. The A1 and A2 do not have heavy barrels but you should get one as with the hand guards in place you can't tell and it'll be more acurate. There's a guy in the Optics EE with a C79 for sale.
Best of luck but I think you will regret going that direction. get a good tacticool shorty with #### loads of bling and a ghuillie suit. ;)
-Randy
 
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