Skeet off a Boat
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blasted_saber
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For hunting yes. Skeet shooting is not hunting.
Apart from whether or not more lead should be introduced into a body of water, are there any regulations restricting over water shooting, as opposed to hunting migratory waterfowl?
There are non lead trap loads.
Skeet shooting from boats would require at least three boats. One for the high house, one for the low house, and another to move the shooter around.
I imagine that trap shooting on a lake would interfere with cottagers' tranquility and enjoyment of their personal watercraft.
I looked into this a few years ago before going on a cruise. The major cruise lines aren't doing anything that leaves debris in the oceans under international agreements so clay target shooting off the rear deck is a thing of the past.
It's a good practice for individuals too. Shooting clays over water leaves lead, plastic wads that float and clay target pieces in public waterways. That's slob shooting and should be condemened by responsible shooters who actually give a damn about the future of the sport.
It's a good practice for individuals too. Shooting clays over water leaves lead, plastic wads that float and clay target pieces in public waterways. That's slob shooting and should be condemened by responsible shooters who actually give a damn about the future of the sport.
the spank
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I dont think it is right to call a guy a slob for asking a simple question about shooting targets from a boat. It was a question is all.Why would anyone assume he meant over water? We shoot a sporting clays station from an aluminum boat on dry land on a springing teal presentation. The fact you checked in to see if a crusie line still had shooting from the ship could leave me to assume you were asking so you enjoy some target shooting from the cruise ship? Why would it be ok for you and not someone else? Because you were spending $$ on a cruise and not throwing targets from your own boat and shooting them on your favorite river or lake? Sorry I dont see the difference. But I shouldnt assume any more than you should. Maybe you were just checking for an article in a magazine?, for a friend?, who knows for sure. Using the same powers of assumption I assume you collect all your wads and ejected hulls that end up in the water at the conclusion of a waterfowl hunt? I may have to reconsider my waterfowling/target shooting hobby or find a "greener" substitute for plastic wads and hulls, maybe we can lobby the manufacturers to go back to paper hulls and cardboard wads so that target shooters and hunters (myself included) aren't considered slobs for shooting over water. Oh and BTW, I dont know where you do your target shooting but I have shot quite a few rounds of sporting clays at a couple clubs in the north here that have many presentations over water including beaver ponds and creeks. I never heard one person complain about it or call anyone a slob for doing so. In fact the vast majority of the people who have shot the courses loved the realism of the presentations. There also isnt anything illegal about it at least not as far as hunting is concerened. The regs only cover discharge of lead/non-toxic shot over waterways when hunting migratory birds. The CFO has no regs regarding throwing targets/shooting over water on ranges to the best of my knowledge unless that has changed since I was on our club executive when we were building new ranges and getting measured for approvals. We throw in front a small pond on our property with the target and some shot fallout landing in the pond and it was not an issue according to the CFO.
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I think that it is reasonable to assume that the op meant shooting over water. I got to admit that in my mis spent past I did think that burning powder off the deck of a cruse ship might be fun. Now that I realize all the #### at most ranges from past years is still littering the ground, I am less willing to dump that into any water. A short while back, Silver Willows Sporting Clays put a 5 stand over a man made pool. Other than the Canadian Championship they do not allow lead to be shot on the range. I do know that in Alberta any new ranges that wish to be approved by the government have to prove that lead fallout will not get into the water. As far as a greener substitute for plastic wads go, there is at least one company that is making biodegradable wads. Down Range have some that they claim will be broken down in 4 years. I have tried them and all I can say at this time is that they reload and shoot well. As far as blowing burnt powder, plastic, lead or steel off that back of a cruise I now think think it is slob culture and is not much different than dropping batteries in the water or shipping #### out to sea.
There are some differences. What I specified in my post was "public waterways" not an isolated pond on club property.
The comparison with duck hunting doesn't wash as non-toxic shot is required and far fewer shots are made while hunting compared to clay shooting.
My pursuit of the information regarding a cruise ship was as noted a few years ago and more to satisfy my own curiosity as a shooter not out a desire to do it. I would not and have not shot clay targets from a boat into a public waterway. FWIW, the CFO won't raise a fuss if the body of water is own your own property but if not they will and have required relocation of clay target layouts to ensure lead does not go into the water.
Here, if Turr is in season you can shoot over salt water with lead to your hearts content. Turr is a Federally regulated game bird. Saying that shooting lead over a public waterway is not allowed is simply wrong.
-Dave
What I mentioned was duck hunting where lead is not allowed.
Allowed or not I regard shooting clay targets over public waterways to be slob shooting.
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No! What would make you a slob, would be shooting clay over public water.
Only if you are shooting clay targets over the ocean from the shore of the back of a boat. Are you?
the spank
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Not in my books! Boy some of the top name shooters must be some real slobs in some peoples eyes then, ever see a any of Kay Ohye's trapshooting video's? I dont know what club they were shot at back in the 80's or 90's but the targets are being thrown right over the banks of the shoreline and what appears to be into the ocean beyond! If they are landing on dry land it is by an extremely short margin and definitely the lead shot from all those traploads is going the distance!
As well, one or two guys going out shooting clays on their own doesnt constitute a national environmental catastrophe, whether thrown over water or land. Hell a box of clays is 135 targets, I fire more rounds than that during waterfowl season just from one blind in a marsh, and I am one man. How many other guys shoot from that blind in that one little spot on the days I am not there?
That was then. This is now. I never thought of Kay as a slob, but then I never thought much about the issue. I think about it now.
