No4 Mk1* Longbranch trigger job?

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Does any one here have any tips or tricks on how to improve the trigger on my Lee Enfield? It is a minty 1950 Longbranch so I dont want to perminatly alter the rifle but I am having a hard time shooting it well standing or prone off my elbows. When I shoot it off sandbags it shoots amazingly well with my reloads. If anyone has any ideas for me I would love to hear them.
 
You CAN take the trigger group apart very carefully and use a hard arkansas stone to hone the bearing surfaces smooth as glass. That will improve the military trigger as much as it can be improved without harming the integrity of the rifle. I needs much patience, as you have to smooth out the surfaces while removing as little metal as possible. Let us know how it works out.
 
It might be best to practice on a parts action first. Stoning trigger surfaces can be tricky if you have no experience with it. A little too much zeal and you will have an unsafe rifle.
 
I will have to get my mitts on a junker enfield and try to do some part smoothing on it. If I have any luck maybe I will just use the parts from the guinnie pig rifle and keep the origionals labled and tucked away for the future.
 
If I go with an aftermarket trigger will it install without modifacations to the rifle? Would it help enough to be worth it?
 
Why is an American the only one that understands what this means in a Canadian No.4 Enfield manual.

(I'm saying this because one of you rat ba$tards asked my why the White House was painted white) :D

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The key word above is "may", if the fore stock has more than .020 wood crush below the receiver and trigger guard normally the fore stock would be replaced because the "angle" of the trigger guard was too great to make adjustments to the trigger lobes.

Below, as the angle decreases you reach a point that no further adjustments can be made to the trigger that will give proper 1st and 2nd stage pulls.(remember they move the trigger and hung it from the receiver socket for a reason)

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The 'MAY" means you can't get Enfield stocks any more so you "MAY" have to bend the trigger guard to "decrease" the angle instead of loosing a perfectly good Enfield for the Canadian Rangers.

Below, 1st and 2nd stage pull, please notice "where" the sear is at the end of second stage pull. The location of the sear determines "let off" and the "angle" of the sear control the weight of pull.

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A punch or set screw for over travel or sear stop.

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If you want to keep your Enfield "as is" buy a replacement cocking piece, change the angle of the bent and I guarantee your trigger will be slicker than snot on a door knob. :eek:

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And remember Canadians, it only took Mel Gibson an hour and forty-seven minutes to defeat General Cornwallis at Yorktown. :D

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Thanks a lot biged51, that is what I am looking for. I have a spare bolt somewhere around here.

Make sure the firing pin is a good tight fit in the cocking piece or else the cocking piece can rock up and down as you pull the trigger. (wiggle) And screw up your trigger pull. ;)

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This is why you "tighten" the firing pin "first" to clear the threads and turn it back and forth when removing it to straighten the threads as it is removed from the cocking piece.

Or else you can just turn it counter clockwise and see what happens. :eek:
(snap crackle pop) :(

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Why is an American the only one that understands what this means in a Canadian No.4 Enfield manual.

(I'm saying this because one of you rat ba$tards asked my why the White House was painted white) :D

No4Mk1Arm_Page_43.jpg


The key word above is "may", if the fore stock has more than .020 wood crush below the receiver and trigger guard normally the fore stock would be replaced because the "angle" of the trigger guard was too great to make adjustments to the trigger lobes.

Below, as the angle decreases you reach a point that no further adjustments can be made to the trigger that will give proper 1st and 2nd stage pulls.(remember they move the trigger and hung it from the receiver socket for a reason)

k-screw-2a.jpg


The 'MAY" means you can't get Enfield stocks any more so you "MAY" have to bend the trigger guard to "decrease" the angle instead of loosing a perfectly good Enfield for the Canadian Rangers.

Below, 1st and 2nd stage pull, please notice "where" the sear is at the end of second stage pull. The location of the sear determines "let off" and the "angle" of the sear control the weight of pull.

triggersear.jpg


Image13.jpg


Image14.jpg


A punch or set screw for over travel or sear stop.

image001-3.jpg


If you want to keep your Enfield "as is" buy a replacement cocking piece, change the angle of the bent and I guarantee your trigger will be slicker than snot on a door knob. :eek:

IMGP6651.jpg



And remember Canadians, it only took Mel Gibson an hour and forty-seven minutes to defeat General Cornwallis at Yorktown. :D

mel-g-5.jpg

Ah Cornwallis, what nice memories it brings back of the Green and Gold and the 'hack'. :p
 
Ah Cornwallis, what nice memories it brings back of the Green and Gold and the 'hack'. :p

fat tony, I didn't know you were in the "Sea Cadets" :eek:

In the U.S here in P.A the Sea Cadets went on "Kiddie Cruises" rowing up and down the Susquehanna river, and then went home to their moms after drill. :D

This is a U.S. inter-service rivalry joke because most of the Naval "Kiddies" did not get any military school training (A-school) and spent their active duty service time scraping paint. :eek: My dad was a Navy Chief and always said if you weren't in Naval Aviation you were a nobody. (deck ape or a snipe)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEJMTRRFfZk
 
^ :D Yes I heard all the jokes about 'wallis pussers' etc. :D Cornwallis started out as there were not enough sailors being trained for the Battle of the Atlantic. There were plans to sell the property around 1948, but the RCN reconsidered for some reason. The base continued as an RCN training base until 1968 with unification of the forces, at which time it started accepting punk recruits from all the other branches. :D Now closed for quite some time (1990s).
 
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I have fond memories of CFB Cornwallis,Did my basic training in 86 and ended up there on my first posting from 86-91. GO ARMY
 
"...why the White House was painted white..." Your bunch started it. snicker.
"...hard time shooting it well standing or prone...off sandbags it shoots amazingly well..." If it shoots well off a bench it's your technique not the trigger. Got a sling? Know how to use one when shooting either prone or off-hand? Off-hand will always be less stable though. Upper body toning exercises can help though.
 
"...why the White House was painted white..." Your bunch started it. snicker.
"...hard time shooting it well standing or prone...off sandbags it shoots amazingly well..." If it shoots well off a bench it's your technique not the trigger. Got a sling? Know how to use one when shooting either prone or off-hand? Off-hand will always be less stable though. Upper body toning exercises can help though.

I know my technique could use a little more work but I'm sure that goes for 99% of shooters out there. A good trigger is a big part of the equasion for shooting anything well and the thread was to see what tips or tricks people have used to get a nicer trigger pull. I'm sure you will have a hard time finding a target shooter that will tell you that a quality trigger pull is not important. Once I locate a fireing pin tool, I will take a spare cocking piece and play with slight angle changes and see if I can find somthing that works a little better as it shows in bigedb51 post. As I will still have the origional cocking piece I can tag it and put it away to bring the rifle back to 100% origional when I choose to do so. There is nothing wrong with having your equiptment working the best it can.
 
Do plenty of dry firing at home standing prone. It helps.

I fully agree with dry firing at home which is great practice which I try to do with my center fires. I also have a .22 range at home so I actually shoot quite a bit, it's just that most of the rifles I shoot often have a much better trigger and even though I have 5-600 rounds through this Enfield the trigger is hard for me to get used to.
 
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