Interest for walnut stock for M305 ?
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Boyds are about $85. I love mine, but it is extremely unlikely you would be able to make one and sell it for that. It is a similar story competeing with mass produced products in other areas. I can and have made AR lowers, but I would have to sell them at triple what you can buy a factory one for. My material alone in small batches comes close to what some mass produced finished units sell for. So we make it for ourselves, just because we can and our time is our own.
I would be down for a Walnut hand guard. Maybe re-enforce the parts that were prone to splitting with epoxy and some fibreglass. Just so long as everything looks nice.
Like others have said, it is hard to beat the boyds price for the stock.
Like others have said, it is hard to beat the boyds price for the stock.
If you want to do it, do it, but you can probably get a Boyds walnut for about the same price as a walnut blank. I've handled on at a Hungry clinic, it was surprisingly well done for under $100 and quite light to boot.
The problem that I have found with all commercial M14 (M1A) stocks is that all that I have ever seen with the exception of the Chinese stocks are not cut correctly for the semiauto Chinese M14 receivers.
Chinese semiauto M14 receivers run the right rail lower cut, (the cut with the angle machined into it) all the way to the rear of the right rail, while all other commercial semiauto M14 type receivers have the right rail machined like M1 Garand rail and end the lower angled cut at the rear of the right receiver leg.
I have found that I must modify any commercial semiauto M14 stock to correctly fit Chinese M14 receivers, this is not a major modification, but I find that it is required to correctly seat the receiver in the stock and prevent canting of the receiver, and issues with front band tension and the gas cylinder touching the side of the stock channel.
Please keep in mind that I am down here in the lower 48 and do not have access to the latest Chinese M14 receivers, and I am assuming that they have not changed their manufacturing methods on their newer receivers.
Chinese semiauto M14 receivers run the right rail lower cut, (the cut with the angle machined into it) all the way to the rear of the right rail, while all other commercial semiauto M14 type receivers have the right rail machined like M1 Garand rail and end the lower angled cut at the rear of the right receiver leg.
I have found that I must modify any commercial semiauto M14 stock to correctly fit Chinese M14 receivers, this is not a major modification, but I find that it is required to correctly seat the receiver in the stock and prevent canting of the receiver, and issues with front band tension and the gas cylinder touching the side of the stock channel.
Please keep in mind that I am down here in the lower 48 and do not have access to the latest Chinese M14 receivers, and I am assuming that they have not changed their manufacturing methods on their newer receivers.
Bob, your work is great, but the m14/m1a has many stocks available at a reasonable cost, due to mass production. You start making Ross stocks, and I bet you get a very warm response, and can ask an amount that justifies your efforts. Just my two bits.
RememberTheSomme
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Bob there is a big demand for a nice USGI type M-14 stock. What do you think the price will be before shipping?
I know what a boyd's costs shipped to the door but a Canadian
made stock by a fellow CGNer will sell if the cost is not unreasonable.
I have put the Boyd's idea aside for awhile to fund other things(mainly bills) but if you build some, it may resurrect my interest in Wood again!
I know what a boyd's costs shipped to the door but a Canadian
made stock by a fellow CGNer will sell if the cost is not unreasonable.I have put the Boyd's idea aside for awhile to fund other things(mainly bills) but if you build some, it may resurrect my interest in Wood again!
The M305 i got came with a walnut stock [since sold] i didn't like the plactic handguard so i ordered a walnut handguard from Springfield armory it fit very good cost me $20can to my door.Can you still order a M305 with a walnut stock or only plactic?
RememberTheSomme
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nova Scotia
Was it upgraded to walnut, like boyds or USGI, or was it a chinese chuwood stock you had on that 305?
Sorry lol i just read this now i bought it back in 03 it was a redish color so another forum member on here thinks it may of been tiger walnut?? i think they get/got there timber from india or europe with the handguard from springfield you counldn't tell the difference between the two.Myself i think it was some kind of europeon walnut,but it had that look like the PAKISTAN
NO4 MK2 rifles it looked like that out of the box because of all the machine marks i had to redo it.
NO4 MK2 rifles it looked like that out of the box because of all the machine marks i had to redo it.
love how the cheapo's come out of the wood when someone mentions making stocks
"you're only making 3 by hand but the price point MUST be the same as a mass produced, barely fitting, stock from some other company or NO ONE will buy it, derp"
Bob, your work is amazing.. if you build a couple extra, people will buy them.
"you're only making 3 by hand but the price point MUST be the same as a mass produced, barely fitting, stock from some other company or NO ONE will buy it, derp"
Bob, your work is amazing.. if you build a couple extra, people will buy them.
Yer bang on brother.
I've taken the long road when it comes to making custom stocks. Crafting prototypes, inventing the entire production process, and finally a commercial product came out of it a couple years ago now. My stocks are composite but getting them to be drop in, no hassle fit is the same headache with any medium or method used from wood, composite or aluminum.
As for Boyd's stocks. Most of the under 100 stocks from boyd's are not exactly to spec and must be bedded and modified to ensure correct stock fit and forstock tension. Often 1/16 needs removal from the entire left side edge below the hand guard. Then finished, stained, oiled.
In my opinion, if Bob could come up with a quality walnut stock, that is chinese receiver compatable, usgi stock type profile, barrel channel relieved for all barrel contours and provides a drop in and shoot final product. Nicely stained and oiled.... And in the 200.00 ballpark, you won't sell tonnes, but custom rifle builders such as myself would be pleased to be able to source such a stock and be even happier if it came from a quality canadian stock maker.
I have one of Bob's creations on the bench right now. It's not your typical stock profile but it is VERY nice work and fits the chinese action just fine. This one needs bedding for best fit but is drop in and shoot as it passes all function/safety checks.
I say go for it Bob
I had forgotten about that thread !
Well, to be honest, as it was mentionned in the beginning, there are other options out there for the M305. My offer was before I started stock that M14Doctor has in his hands right now.
I have an idea for a line of stocks that are not supported by any company for a very popular hunting rifle, I'll start working on them in a couple of weeks
Well, to be honest, as it was mentionned in the beginning, there are other options out there for the M305. My offer was before I started stock that M14Doctor has in his hands right now.
I have an idea for a line of stocks that are not supported by any company for a very popular hunting rifle, I'll start working on them in a couple of weeks
