How do YOU clean up after shooting corrosive ammo?

Best way to clean your gun after shooting corrosive ammo?

  • Hot water and soap...AKA take it in the shower

    Votes: 86 33.2%
  • Windex...streak free of course :P

    Votes: 56 21.6%
  • Dedicated corrosive ammo cleaner...brand?

    Votes: 18 6.9%
  • Normal gun cleaning products...just add more elbow grease :P

    Votes: 82 31.7%
  • I don't shoot corrosive (must be rich!)

    Votes: 17 6.6%

  • Total voters
    259
Hot water is definitely the best route. Think of it from a chemical perspective; it's corrosive mercurial salts. What's the best way to dissolve a salt based composition that doesn't cost $50 an ounce? Good old hot water :D
Then yes x2 on the Ed's Red. I generally just dump all the removable components that have been exposed to the gas into boiling water, scrub them down with a rag then into an old pot full of ed's red to displace the water in the tight spots. It's part of general cleaning routine anyway.
It makes warm butter out of even the hardest caked on carbon in about 5 minutes :D And it costs me about $2.00 a liter to make!
But there is no advertisements for it, and it doesn't cost obscene amounts of money, so it couldn't possibly work right? ;)

How do you make "Ed's Red"?
 
All you need is Ballistol it is great for cleaning after firing corrosive ammo forget all this other stuff
 
The cz manual says wd-40. Nowhere does it say to use water.
I have never used water and have never seen rust.
After a good soaking with WD, clean normally.
 
Ed's Red

How do you make "Ed's Red"?

Here you go...

Ed's Red Homebrew Bore Solvent

[SIZE=-1]This article was taken in whole from the website of Ed Harris and is reprinted here only as a service to our Members. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Ed Harris (Rev. 12-27-94)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Mix Your Own "Ed's Red" Bore Cleaner... It Really Works![/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Three years ago I mixed my first "Ed's Red" and I still think the "recipe" is a great idea. If you have never tried it, or maybe lost the recipe, I urge you save this and mix your own. My followers on the FIREARMS Echo think it's the best thing since smokeless powder![/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]I'll summarize the story again for the passing parade that didn't get it the first time... I originally did this because I used a lot of rifle bore cleaner and was deterred by the high price of commercial products. I knew there was no technical reason why you could not mix an effective bore cleaner using common hardware store ingredients which would be inexpensive, effective, and provide reasonable corrosion protection and adequate lubrication.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]The "recipe" is based on proven principles and incorporates two polar and two non-polar ingredients. It is adapted from a formula in Hatcher's Notebook, Frankford Arsenal Cleaner No.18, but substituting equivalent modern materials.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]I had the help of an organic chemist in doing this and we knew there would be no "surprises" The original Hatcher recipe called for equal parts of acetone, turpentine, Pratts Astral Oil and sperm oil, and optionally 200 grams of lanolin added per liter.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Pratts Astral oil was nothing more than acid free, deodorized kerosene. We use K-1 kerosene of the type normally sold for indoor space heaters.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]An inexpensive, effective substitute for sperm oil is Dexron (II, IIe or III) automatic transmission fluid. Prior to about 1950 most ATF's were sperm oil based, but during WWII a synthetic was developed for use in precision instruments. With the great demand for automatic transmission autos after WWII, sperm oil was no longer practical to produce ATF in the quantity demanded, so the synthetic material became the basis for the Dexron fluids we know today. The additives in ATFs, which include organometallic antioxidants and surfactants, make it highly suitable for our intended purpose.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Hatcher's original formula used gum spirits of turpentine, but turpentine is expensive and highly flammable. Cheaper and safer is aliphatic mineral spirits, which is a petroleum based "safety solvent" used for thinning oil based paints and as automotive parts cleaner. It is commonly sold under the names "odorless mineral spirits," "Stoddard Solvent" or "Varsol".[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]There isn't anything in Ed's Red, which will chemically remove copper fouling, but it does a better job on carbon residue than anything out there. Several users have told me, that exclusive use of "ER" does reduce the buildup of copper fouling, because it removes old impacted fouling which is left by other cleaners, reducing the adhesion of abraded metal to the surface, and leaving a cleaner surface which reduces subsequent fouling.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]It appears that "ER" will actually remove metal fouling it if you let it "soak" so the surfactants will do the job, though you may have to be patient.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]The lanolin is optional. The cleaner works quite well without it. Incorporating the lanolin makes the cleaner easier on the hands, and provides better residual lubrication and corrosion protection if you use the cleaner as a protectant for long term storage. If you want to minimize cost, you can leave the lanolin out and save about $8 per gallon.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Mix some yourself. I know it will work as well for you as it does for me.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]CONTENTS: Ed's Red Bore Cleaner[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1 part Dexron II, IIe or III ATF, GM Spec. D-20265 or later.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1 part Kerosene - deodorized, K1[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1 part Aliphatic Mineral Spirits, Fed. Spec. TT-T-2981F, CAS #64741-49-9, or substitute "Stoddard Solvent", CAS #8052-41-3, or equivalent, (aka "Varsol")[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1 part Acetone, CAS #67-64-1.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1](Optional up to 1 lb. of Lanolin, Anhydrous, USP per gallon, OK to substitute Lanolin, Modified, Topical Lubricant, from the drug store)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]MIXING INSTRUCTIONS: Mix outdoors, in good ventilation. Use a clean 1 gallon metal, chemical-resistant, heavy gage PET or PVC plastic container. NFPA approved plastic gasoline storage containers are also OK. Do NOT use HDPE, which is breathable because the acetone will evaporate. The acetone in ER will attack HDPE in about 6 months, making a heck of a mess! Add the ATF first. Use the empty container to measure the other components, so that it is thoroughly rinsed. If you incorporate the lanolin into the mixture, melt this carefully in a double boiler, taking precautions against fire. Pour the melted lanolin it into a larger container, rinsing the lanolin container with the bore cleaner mix, and stirring until it is all dissolved. I recommend diverting a small quantity, up to 4 ozs. per quart of the 50-50 ATF/kerosene mix for use as an "ER-compatible" gun oil. This can be done without impairing the effectiveness of the mix.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]INSTRUCTIONS FOR USING Ed's Red Bore Cleaner:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]1. Open the firearm action and ensure the bore is clear. Cleaning is most effective when done while the barrel is still warm to the touch from firing. Saturate a cotton patch with bore cleaner, wrap or impale on jag and push it through the bore from breech to muzzle. The patch should be a snug fit. Let the first patch fall off and do not pull it back into the bore.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]2. Wet a second patch, and similarly start it into the bore from the breech, this time scrubbing from the throat area forward in 4-5" strokes and gradually advancing until the patch emerges out the muzzle. Waiting approximately 1 minute to let the bore cleaner soak will improve its action.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]3. For pitted, heavily carbon-fouled "rattle battle" guns, leaded revolvers or neglected bores a bronze brush wet with bore cleaner may be used to remove stubborn deposits. This is unnecessary for smooth, target-grade barrels in routine use.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]4. Use a final wet patch pushed straight through the bore to flush out loosened residue dissolved by Ed's Red. Let the patch fall off the jag without pulling it back into the bore. If you are finished firing, leaving the bore wet will protect it from rust for up to 30 days. If the lanolin is incorporated into the mixture, it will protect the firearm from rust for up to two years. For longer term storage I recommend use of Lee Liquid Alox as a Cosmolene substitute. "ER" will readily remove hardened Alox or Cosmolene.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]5. Wipe spilled Ed's Red from exterior surfaces before storing the gun. While Ed's Red is harmless to blue and nickel finishes, the acetone it contains is harmful to most wood finishes).[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]6. Before firing again, push two dry patches through the bore and dry the chamber, using a patch wrapped around a suitably sized brush or jag. Ed[/SIZE]
 
WD-40 or Fluid Film straight down the bore. Maybe run a boresnake down the pipe. But we shoot the guns regularly day to day so corrosion isnt a problem. If they're sitting for long periods(2+weeks) then we do a proper cleaning with patches etc. The manual says WD-40 and that seems to have worked so far.
 
Hot water is definitely the best route. Think of it from a chemical perspective; it's corrosive mercurial salts. What's the best way to dissolve a salt based composition that doesn't cost $50 an ounce? Good old hot water :D
Then yes x2 on the Ed's Red. I generally just dump all the removable components that have been exposed to the gas into boiling water, scrub them down with a rag then into an old pot full of ed's red to displace the water in the tight spots. It's part of general cleaning routine anyway.
It makes warm butter out of even the hardest caked on carbon in about 5 minutes :D And it costs me about $2.00 a liter to make!
But there is no advertisements for it, and it doesn't cost obscene amounts of money, so it couldn't possibly work right? ;)

Same here boiling water down the barrel and gas tube, then i clean as per normal with the Solvent and Oil. At the Range i even put a patch soaked in Windex followed by a dry patch to hold over until i get home. Hot water works fantastic in cleaning all the crap out of the bore and the heat evaporates the water quickly.
 
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I used to scrub and patch, hot water, windex, BC BP solvent etc etc...

Then I switched to that cheap CLP in the squeeze bottle, now I just patch, rub, reapply and dry patch... No rust on my toys.
 
anyone else reluctent to mix water and guns?

When I shoot my sks for target practice up north, and hot water is hard to find, I just hook it up to my boat and drag it when pike fishing. Action open of coarse, woundnt want to scare any fish.;)

She can take it and comes out clean.

If the line breaks and I lose the rifle its no big loss, I'd add structure to the lake and replacement is no problem.:D

With any luck the new one might shoot under 6 inches at 10 feet.:eek:
 
Windex at the range after shooting and then boiling water and oil after it has dried when I get home.

I do the Windex at the range in case I don't get to cleaning the gun right after I get home. It doesn't happen often that I get sidetracked but the Windex cleaning works until I get to cleaning the gun.
 
I heard that if you fire a few rounds of non corosive ammo after shooting corosive that it cleans pretty much all the corosive salts out and makes cleaning a lot eaisier ,is this true?
 
I heard that if you fire a few rounds of non corosive ammo after shooting corosive that it cleans pretty much all the corosive salts out and makes cleaning a lot eaisier ,is this true?

See:


After shooting corrosive ammo, shot 5 rounds of non corrosive ammo, it's will be done.

Non corrosive ammo will burn all coorsive salt.:D

From this very thread. ;)
 
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