Win 94 AE XTR .307

They have the FTX and Monoflex bullets in both .30-30 and .308 Marlin version. One of the version should work.
 
You guys have taken this thread down the most interesting paths. Much appreciated. I like the chambering since it is apparently quite unusual and the rifles are relatively rare. I do hear Super Cub's ruthlessly practical appraisal, but I like something out of the ordinary, however, and in a fit of good taste I have purchased the rifle. Now to source some reasonably priced brass. Anyone have any good leads?

You knew my mind was made up before I posted. Right? :)
 
bcsteve said:
They have the FTX and Monoflex bullets in both .30-30 and .308 Marlin version. One of the version should work.
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Steve,

I've been following your posts on the Barnes with great interest and appreciation. I now have a box of TSX in every caliber I own. :)

What, if any, Barnes TSX or TTSX will work in this rifle do you think?

Trick question, Steve...;)
 
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I know you guys are thinking flat shooting rounds for more effective range. But whenever I think .307, I can't help but wonder if the 170 Nosler Partition made for the 30-30 would be some kind of game killing 'stick of dynamite' in this case?
Barring O.A.L. feeding issues, that is.

dreaming away here

On your guy's train of thought, it's said the Speer 130 grain with the small flatpoint is the bees knees for this cartridge on deer.
 
woodlotowner said:
Steve,

I've been following your posts on the Barnes with great interest and appreciation. I now have a box of TSX in every caliber I own. :)

What, if any, Barnes TSX or TTSX will work in this rifle do you think?

Trick question, Steve...;)
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The only option from Barnes, if you want to keep your rifle more than a double rifle, is the 150gr TSX FN.

The Hornady Monoflex will allow you to use a mono metal bullet but has the gummy tip of the FTX for a lever action with better long range ballistic.
 
I have the .307 and love it. Have kept every spent casing in hopes of one day having them re-loaded, as I don't re-load myself (yet). I have about 100 rounds of factory loaded ammo. Enough to last me for the rest of my hunting life!
Originally Winchester made 150 gr. and 180 gr. bullets but then they stopped the 150 and you can only buy the 180 in recent years. So far I have harvested two deer with this gun.
I have only bought ammo at LeBaron stores but I know E.Epps and Gagnon also carry them. That's for GTA though so I am not sure about other areas and provinces. I was lucky to find some privately and got a great deal on them. Right now someone in New Brunswick is selling two boxes of bullets cheap. Check out the EE section!
 
I just checked back on this thread and you don't need different dies. I use my 308 dies for my 307 and I am pretty sure thats what you are supposed to do. I have loaded 308 brass with round nose bullets and loaded the tube and they cycle, fire and extract perfectly.
 
I've had a Win 94AE in .307 for 20 years and I like it. My only complaint is the non-esthetic cross-bolt safety - I'd prefer a tang safety.

The ballistics of flat-nose bullets is fine for me - I use this gun for hunting in bush where you're lucky to get a clear 100-yard shot. If I can strike a 5-inch plate at 100 yds shooting offhand or kneeling, it's good enough to knock down a deer, IMO. I like bench shooting, too, but I have other guns for that.

Regarding reloading and/or use of .308 ammo, just beware of excessive pressure. Non-extraction of stuck casings could result, as I found out once upon a time. That's why the reload tables for .307 have a lower max. than .308. YMMV.
 
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woodlotowner said:
Thanks gents. That helps. I concur with the .300 savage comment in terms of ballistics. I think this gun was developed to give 94 lovers the performance of the .300 savage, but its introduction was overwhelmed by the move to bolt and pump guns about that time in history. If anyone owns one please weigh in here with your anecdotal comments.

Woodlotowner
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Your time frame is way off. The .307 was developed in the 1970s, already 50-60 years after the advent of popular introduction of pump and bolt action rifles and higher performance cartridges. The .307 was a great idea that nobody wanted to hear. It's a great little cartridge in the M94, but never did meet sales expectation.
 
jethunter said:
Your time frame is way off. The .307 was developed in the 1970s, already 50-60 years after the advent of popular introduction of pump and bolt action rifles and higher performance cartridges. The .307 was a great idea that nobody wanted to hear. It's a great little cartridge in the M94, but never did meet sales expectation.
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The .307 Win came out in 1982.
 
Kilo Charlie said:
Good points all, SC, but there is one important plus. It's a Model 94, and some people just love 'em. That has to be factored in. Also, though pricier, ammo and brass are still in production.
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You said it! Some people just love 'em! I am one of them. Have a 307 in my collection, too. :)
 
If a M94 is preferred over a BLR or 99, a 30/30AI would be a good alternative as well. Just need dies and a gunsmith with a reamer.


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SuperCub said:
If a M94 is preferred over a BLR or 99, a 30/30AI would be a good alternative as well. Just need dies and a gunsmith with a reamer.


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As you may recall, SC, I had one of those a few years back, bought from another member. Subsequently (and foolishly) I traded it away. I have another 336A I was thinking of Ackley-izing. I think with decent bullets (FTX?) and the imminent availability of LeverEvolution powder, the .30-30 AI will be better than ever. I'm hijacking but can't stop!
Brass is super-cheap for the .30-30, heck, most friends will give it to you free! And if you have reason to, you can just shoot factory ammo in your rifle. So you will be shooting or hunting, and fireforming brass at the same time! Also, the gunsmithing is easier because RIMMED AI cartridges don't require a barrel setback.
I don't own a chrono, but my expected velocities with the 150-grain were about 2500 fps. That's using Speer 150 FP and RL 15.
 
bcsteve said:
The .307 Win came out in 1982.
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I said it was developed in the 1970s....

Although possibly the bolt rifle did not become popular in BC until much later, most of north america was enjoying the model 70 winchester and other BA rifles some 40-50 years prior to the introduction of the .307 winchester, which is what the Op had alluded to.
 
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