NEA AR question?

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Ive been reading recent threads about NEA uppers and parts and the excitement of them releasing new products?
Im looking into buying my first AR this fall and like the fact NEA is a Canadian company. The question I have is, are they going to be just selling specific parts for AR's or are they manufacturing a complete rifle that I can take out of a box and be ready to go?
 
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50calshooter said:
975!!!!!!!

I can't believe it, an all billet machined AR for 975!!?!?!!? Are we in the twilight zone? cuz that sounds farken sweet.

Um I'll take 2 please.... I guess only time will tell, it does seem to good to be true though...
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It's my understanding that the forgings are stronger and cheaper.
The billet is strong enough and are usually machined with extra, nice to have, features like oversized trigger guards, flared magwells and so on.
However there are different kinds of strengths.
I think that forgings are less likely to break, but most of the billet offerings are a good bit thicker in places (to get the same strength), which also makes them heavier and stiffer.
The more stiff part in theory could make them a bit more accurate.
Is it true?
I'm not sure.
Bottom line is that castings, forgings and "from billet" are all excellent means of manufacturing metal components.
 
Nestor said:
It's my understanding that the forgings are stronger and cheaper.
The billet is strong enough and are usually machined with extra, nice to have, features like oversized trigger guards, flared magwells and so on.
However there are different kinds of strengths.
I think that forgings are less likely to break, but most of the billet offerings are a good bit thicker in places (to get the same strength), which also makes them heavier and stiffer.
The more stiff part in theory could make them a bit more accurate.
Is it true?
I'm not sure.
Bottom line is that castings, forgings and "from billet" are all excellent means of manufacturing metal components.
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In this application, the only benefit for having a forged AR upper/lower is for the manufacturer. It is a much shorter run time to machine from a forging then from billet.
 
matty86suk said:
NEA should design/manufacture an 18.5'' barrel AR upper that will work with their NEA swiss arms lower, i think i am on to something.....
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It could potentially lead to the registration of either Swiss lowers or AR uppers......... and NEA would be come the villain of the fire arms community in Canada..... even fat chicks would shun us.
 
North Eastern Arms said:
In this application, the only benefit for having a forged AR upper/lower is for the manufacturer. It is a much shorter run time to machine from a forging then from billet.
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Thanks for your explanation.
The biggest drawback to a billet part is they must be fully machined.
If producing 100,000,000 parts the cost of the machining of all the parts will be much higher than the cost of forging and then finish machining an equal number of parts.
The advantage of billet is in low numbers of the parts.
Canadian market comes to my mind :)
Anyway, thanks for the idea of offering us the long awaited Canadian made AR.
 
Nestor said:
It's my understanding that the forgings are stronger and cheaper.
The billet is strong enough and are usually machined with extra, nice to have, features like oversized trigger guards, flared magwells and so on.
However there are different kinds of strengths.
I think that forgings are less likely to break, but most of the billet offerings are a good bit thicker in places (to get the same strength), which also makes them heavier and stiffer.
The more stiff part in theory could make them a bit more accurate.
Is it true?
I'm not sure.
Bottom line is that castings, forgings and "from billet" are all excellent means of manufacturing metal components.
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It was my understanding that billet's are forged as well, but instead of being forged into the shap of a receiver, they are forged into blocks. So I can't see any structural advantage. Only one I see is what NEA already pointed out, its already pretty much the right shape it just needs some finishing.

I can see an advantage for billets up here over the forgings, I mean how many producers in Canada are making AR forgings? none that I can think of, but its probably not too difficult to get a block of aluminum alloy from a dealer or get some made up if needed.

But thats my un-educated observation and might be flawed lol.
 
North Eastern Arms said:
It could potentially lead to the registration of either Swiss lowers or AR uppers......... and NEA would be come the villain of the fire arms community in Canada..... even fat chicks would shun us.
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how about NEA matching uppers for the swiss lowers, is it time to start the swiss arms under 2000 dollars thread yet???:rockOn:
 
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