wish there was more 7.62x39 ARs?

heavenIsAlie said:
great for people who have the time to reload, not so great for those that dont
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It doesn't take as much time as you might think. I have no idea what takes up your time (school, work, family etc) but I have to assume if you don't think you have the time.....then you really don't.

I have a wife, two kids and a full time professional carrier. I manage to squeeze it in, an hour here and an hour there. Just sayin' it can be done and....well.....it fun too. (which is part of how I manage to squeeze it in)
 
AlexF said:
7.62x39 AR is not a good idea because the AR magazine well is straight and the 7.63x39 round is tapered.
AK magazines are banana shaped while AR magazines are much straighter.

Combine the 2 together and you get feeding problems.
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The last generation of c products mags are supposedly very reliable if not flawless.
 
The AR bolt size is not suited to 7.62, any stress modeling software will show you should run away from 7.62x39, or 6.8 chambered AR-15's.

Want a 7.62x39 gun, buy a gun designed for it...
 
eg23 said:
Bolivar, do you have to case trim 223? That's what scares me away from loading 223.
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I'm not sure I understand the question. Yes, you have to trim 223 cases, that same as any other case, regardless of firearm.

It's a pain in the ass but doable. You should not expect to have to trim it for every sizing though. Normally you trim 0.010 below max and then it takes a couple of resizing cycles to get to the point you need to trim again.

With most of my rifles, I trim after I get to within 0.005 of max. For bulk 223 I will probably just be happy with less than max.

I am thinking of getting one of those RCBS or Lyman case prep centres this fall, to speed up the trimming process. Or more accurately, speed up the process of deburing the inside and outside of the trimmed neck. Using a hand tool for 2-3000 cases will suck large.:D
 
eg23 said:
Bolivar, do you have to case trim 223? That's what scares me away from loading 223.
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Case trimming 223 is by far the easiest bottleneck casing I've had the experience of working with. You don't even need fancy tools, the LEE lock stud case collet and trimmer work perfectly with a drill. Get the Forster chamfer and deburr tool and you can do hundreds of cases per sitting. Just a couple weekends ago I did 20 cases in less than 5 minutes.
 
I use a Dillon resizing die with motorized trimer.

It is boring as hell and it takes million years to load 1000 rounds.
 
KevinB said:
The AR bolt size is not suited to 7.62, any stress modeling software will show you should run away from 7.62x39, or 6.8 chambered AR-15's.

Want a 7.62x39 gun, buy a gun designed for it...
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Kevin you know whether the Bushmaster ACR shoots good when swapped with AK barrels and bolt group? Not sure if it's the carrier because I've never seen an ACR in real life or even know what all the components are needed for a swap.
 
jasonn said:
Its not an AR but Rob arms XCR comes x39 and is non restricted.
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Is there a short barrelled XCR option, say 10"-12"? I prefer the feel of the AR platform over the 858/CSA carbine and would love to be able to shoot surplus 7.62x39 in an AR. What I am hearing here is that I might as well get the CSA carbine and live with it, especially at the new price.


Mark
 
I see 2 reason for a 7.62x39 AR:
  1. Cheap ammo for civilians (for now)
  2. Ability to use ennemy ammo for extended patrol for special forces

I think that about anything else can be done better using 5.56x45 or 6.8SPC.

Alex

Not an industry expert but spend way too much time thinking about this ;)
 
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