High end, long range Laser ranger finder advice needed.

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looking for something to accurately range out to 1500 yards/meters or so on small to medium targets (such as deer). Will also be used on the range. So it needs to handle mirage and be useable on large paper targets.

Something compact would be good, but I played with a swarovski and it wasn't as big or bulky as I expected. And if anyone has any info on Newcon, please share such as performance, price, and where to buy.

Can anybody recommend something that is a tried and true performer? Some of the cheaper ones I have tried work ok to a few hundred yards that have trouble resolving the target or give false readings.

THanks for any help
 
^well then hopefully the long distance guys can help us both out here and steer us in the right direction
 
I have Leica Geovid binos and I think you would have to mount them on a tripod to range anything past about 1000 yards. Now you younger and steadier gents may be able to range at distance hand held, but I doubt it. My binos are 8X, love them. FS
 
So you think any hand held will be limited not so much by laser tech and beam but by operate error or the platform its on?
 
Ok. Jerry can back me up. A couple summers ago a bunch if us did some long range shooting in the Okanagan. Mysticplayer and other fellow CGNers were there. Between us we had leica, bushnell and Swarovski rangefinders.

It was a very bright day and the targets didn't have much contrast. A good challenge for any laser rangefinder. We were shooting from 600 all the way out to 1600 yds.

The bushnells were obviously the weakest.

Te leica was good but couldn't range past 900yds or so due to the brightness.

The swarovski though made it all the way out to the full 1500yds and never skipped a beat.

When I buy a rangefinder I'm definitely going with a swarovski rangefinder. Hows that for practical experience?
 
Did you have any mirage or mist to contend with during ranging? What colour targets were you using/ size at 1500?
 
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USP said:
So you think any hand held will be limited not so much by laser tech and beam but by operate error or the platform its on?
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that's true.
the rangefinder needs to "see" the laser spot and the steadier your mount is the better.
Nikon seems to be faster than others.
 
legi0n said:
that's true.
the rangefinder needs to "see" the laser spot and the steadier your mount is the better.
Nikon seems to be faster than others.
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Are there ones that control the diameter of the laser at distance better than others? That and lock time are the two tech essentials mostly arent they?
 
USP said:
Did you have any mirage or mist to contend with during ranging? What colour targets were you using/ size at 1500?
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Lots of mirage, it was summer behind summerland. I think the temps were in the mid 30s. we all had ice soaked shirts wrapping our barrels.

The 1600 yd target was on a hillside and it was a rock about 3ft across or so. The 600yd targets were lower so had more mirage to contend with.

Only the 600 and 800 yard targets were man made, they were gray 6 and 10" round plates.

The "gopher" is a 2L pop bottle sized tree stump.
 
USP said:
Are there ones that control the diameter of the laser at distance better than others? That and lock time are the two tech essentials mostly arent they?
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Technically yes.

All lasers have something called "divergence" which limits their range.
The rangefinder has to "read" the laser spot at the range you want and it has to do it fast enough so that the spot is still on the target.

At 1km your heartbeat will move the spot around a couple of feet when handheld so the lock time is paramount. Think about having the spot on the deer and the very next split second it is on the grassy landscape behind it. What will the rangefinder range?

But then again, 1km rangefinders usually work only on reflective surfaces (as opposed to deer). I can use mine to range the rocks the bighorn is standing on but not the bighorn itself.

Leica rangefinders are touted to be very good but I can't confirm that for I settled for a different brand.
 
New leica 1600 will do what you want. Cheaper than the swarovski, half the size, and twice the rangefinder. Its giving you you're angle of incline, temperature, and barometeric pressure.
 
Fassteel said:
Why would some one want to range a deer at 1500 yards? FS
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Its mixed, Deer under 500 and targets triple that.

This is mixed usage, I will not always be primary shooter or user. Therefore my palty skills arent always a factor :p

Guys do the manufacturers measure locktime all the same? Or do they not use a universal system so its hard to decode thier times?

Any websites that offer a comparo of various ones? All ive seen is the low end cheapos or golf pointers.

Do the Leicas, Swaros and Newcons have tripod adapters? How are all three on battery use? Any issues in extreme cold or how are the optics for fogging up going from indoors to cold outdoors?

I have heard very little about the Newcons, anybody actually using one? Any info?

Thanks for the info so far.
 
We have tested a Lieka , zeiss, leopold , and nikon , all 1500 yd models , Nikon was the fastest of them all , but we all got a reading over 1200 yds , but the nikon was the only one where we could range a crow mid flight , and the nikon was the cheapest one there.
 
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