I think the 124gr is probably best for the shadow. I have heard that some of the best CZ shooters in the world use a 124gr bullet in their shadows. I prefer a 147gr in my tanfoglio's and HK's. I prefer it probably because I am also used to using it. I find the timing better for my shooting.
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Really. My last batch of of .38cal AIM bullets were all .3575 in diameter and their weight didn't vary 1/10 of a grain. They were lighter than 158 gr but consistent in their weight. Personally I would like to see them with a diameter of .358 but that is a personal preference. I have used their 9MM bullets as well and found them to be consistently .3565 in diameter and were all within 1/10th of a grain but lighter than 124 gr. Again I would prefer them to be .357 for 9MM but again that is a personal preference.
Too, I would prefer their coatings to be slightly thicker to achieve the preferred diameter, again a personal preference. Both bullet types shot accurately out of my handguns.
Because I am now shooting revolver I would prefer a 158 gr RN bullet for competition but their existing RNFP certainly works.
I should also preface the above remarks by noting AIM has consistently supported our IDPA program across Canada and for that we are grateful.
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X2. This describes my viewpoint perfectly.
Yup if it seals the bore properly and adds thickness to the coating. Like I said, my personal preference.
As an aside lead boolits cast to .356 will tumble in most of my 9MM guns while .357 sized bullets won't and that is 1/4 of the thickness of a human hair if my and your math is correct. My math is probably wrong given it has been a few years and I don't care if I get the answer wrong.
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Most commercial reloaders as well as individual customers want the smaller diameter for their 9mm loads. It is however my belief that .356" in a plated bullet will give the best overall performance in the widest cross section of guns. Some bores are tight, some are loose. Unfortunately there's no way of pleasing everyone but we're doing our best.
Kyle, FWIW I say stick with 147 and tite group. You can't go wrong with a proven performer like that.
Edit to add: Bob, would there be any percentage in experimenting with the 158 grain/.357" bullet in your gun? You'd have to adjust for oal and charge of course, but if your gun prefers a larger slug that might be worth a try. Could be a very soft shooter....
If you do opt to try this, I'd love to get the data from you.
Kyle, FWIW I say stick with 147 and tite group. You can't go wrong with a proven performer like that.
Edit to add: Bob, would there be any percentage in experimenting with the 158 grain/.357" bullet in your gun? You'd have to adjust for oal and charge of course, but if your gun prefers a larger slug that might be worth a try. Could be a very soft shooter....
If you do opt to try this, I'd love to get the data from you.
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Really ? So if I understand this correctly. If you buy a Shadow you can only shoot 124 grain bullets unless you modify the sight ? Seems weird.
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Plated bullets tend to react very closely to lead bullets. In the case of lead .356 sized bullets will tumble in all my 9MM guns (M&P, STI, Tanfoglio and CZ). I have had them tumble inside of 10 yards. Your plated bullets worked fine at .3565.
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That has been my experience too with my Shadow. I had a couple thousand Montana Golds in 147 that always shot high. I thought it was just my gun until I read this post.
I never felt a significant advantage recoil wise with the 147's over the 124's. I just abandoned the 147's and sold them to a friend who likes them in his Sig.
It is the gun, There were a lot of shadows that shot high from the factory, I had two that shot high. Ordered taller front sights, .020" works great. From a rest my guns shoot point of aim with 115g, 124g, and 147g. My best groups are with 124g and 3.8 of titegroup.
To the original poster; I believe on the hodgdon website with the loading data, there is some titegroup loads there for 147's, fmj maybe I'm away at the moment so I can't quote exactly for sure. In my experience with plated projectiles, I usually take my proven fmj load and back it off 2-3 tenths of a grain and work up. Aim 147 and titegroup will work great for you. A friend of mine swears by this bullet and autocomp. To each their own, and it is all about what feels best. Right now I am stuck on 124 gr bullets, and BDX works excellent, but soon I will be using Sellior Bellot fmj. The heavier bullets feel pretty good, but for me, I like the snap of the 124 and titegroup, but am going to try some slower powders and compare the feel. I will be experimenting with the heavier bullets just to see if for "me" I can achieve an advantage. Hey Rob, I agree with the confidence often found on the Internet, at times it's intrigueing. And as far as competing with only competing in mind, after all of these years I thought most shot and competed because you had fun; I'm with you Bob, for me getting out with friends and family and enjoying shooting, its awesome. OP, good luck gearing up. Keep us posted on how you make out. Have a great weekend everybody!
After shooting the long poppers at the 2010 Ont Provincials I realized my Shadow was shooting a little high with 147's. Swapped out the original 5.5 mm front sight for the 6.0 mm tall unit and now any misses are entirely my fault
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My shadow shoots poa to 25m with either the 147s or 124s.
I have noticed slightly better accuracy with the 124s, but I suspect that is the given load, not necessarily down to the bullet choice.
I'm not particularily picky over one weight v. The other or plated v. Jacketed.
It would be nice to be able to pick up AIM's stuff out here for reasonable costs, but it seems they are not interested in doing business out West anymore....unless I'm missing something?
I have noticed slightly better accuracy with the 124s, but I suspect that is the given load, not necessarily down to the bullet choice.
I'm not particularily picky over one weight v. The other or plated v. Jacketed.
It would be nice to be able to pick up AIM's stuff out here for reasonable costs, but it seems they are not interested in doing business out West anymore....unless I'm missing something?
