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Fire while Moving
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Bolivar
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Firing while moving
Here is an interpretation of how to shoot while moving. Scores suggest improvement is needed.
Constructive criticism is appreciated
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The pistol shooting at the end reveals a poor body position I think. Too much weight on the back foot. PH Racing will probably see that I need to take another one of his instructional sessions.
Here is an interpretation of how to shoot while moving. Scores suggest improvement is needed.
Constructive criticism is appreciated
[youtube]XxZ0tdtDwXE[/youtube]
The pistol shooting at the end reveals a poor body position I think. Too much weight on the back foot. PH Racing will probably see that I need to take another one of his instructional sessions.
Although somewhere between hanibal lectar and that fat jedi kid on youtube, this video is helpful considering it looks like it was filmed in a rental unit of some type 
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or watch Jessie's feet/knees as she transitions and shoots at around 0.12 to .014 seconds in this video...knees bent forward shooting and smooth level sight picture
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or watch Jessie's feet/knees as she transitions and shoots at around 0.12 to .014 seconds in this video...knees bent forward shooting and smooth level sight picture
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Alot depends upon how accurate you need the fire to be. If you are engaging a 1-5m target tecnique really doesn't matter. Engaging small targets and over 5m requires technique. The "trick" for shooting on the move is to take small steps. Bend the knees slightly and just move the leg below the knee taking small steps. This keeps the upper body as stable as it can be while moving.
The reality is however; most people are better off engaging a target and them running like hell to the next position. This usually produces a faster outcome.
The reality is however; most people are better off engaging a target and them running like hell to the next position. This usually produces a faster outcome.
Bolivar
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
In our CQB setup you have to move and shoot at the same time or else DQ. There are advance and fire stages too but this particular match requires you start moving your feet at the sound of the whistle and keep moving till you are done.
You can't even game the system by pausing to shoot. Constant motion.
You can't even game the system by pausing to shoot. Constant motion.
On Sat's CQB I tried something a bit different, got better results. I find walking straight and holding my cannon is unnatural. So before I started I went as far left as I could, then walked and shot on a diagonal to the target, walking to the right and forward, not straight towards the target. Much more comfortable. I even got a few bulls.
Only if the shooter is unable to shoot effectively on the move. Fastest times are usually produced by reducing dwell time or time not spent shooting. A long run between positions is a long time not shooting. Ideally fast times are produced by never standing still, or spending the least amount of time standing still.
That would be something interesting to watch and see why that works for you. Really you want to build your skill set so that you can shoot and move in any direction effectively. That being said I usually shoot better on the move when backing up, mostly because you land each foot on your toes instead of the heels and this absorbs the impact a bit better. I've tried moving forward by using the toes, essientially tip toeing, but it doesn't feel natural and you can't roll through the step so you tend to bouce more.
I'm guessing you use a Weaver type stance which blades the torso which would make it difficult to move and shoot straight ahead as you have to unblade your torso but the bent left arm fights this position.
In both these picture you can see with both arms slightly bent I can engage targets either straight ahead or to the side while moving at a brisk pace.
That would be something interesting to watch and see why that works for you. Really you want to build your skill set so that you can shoot and move in any direction effectively. That being said I usually shoot better on the move when backing up, mostly because you land each foot on your toes instead of the heels and this absorbs the impact a bit better. I've tried moving forward by using the toes, essientially tip toeing, but it doesn't feel natural and you can't roll through the step so you tend to bouce more.
I'm guessing you use a Weaver type stance which blades the torso which would make it difficult to move and shoot straight ahead as you have to unblade your torso but the bent left arm fights this position.
In both these picture you can see with both arms slightly bent I can engage targets either straight ahead or to the side while moving at a brisk pace.
Interesting, thanks for the photos. M14 is a tad different, damn heavy! I've been practicing moving and sighting onto target, both shooting and just "pretending". It's damn difficult to keep the crosshairs even getting anywhere near the bull.
I definitely have to increase my upper arm strength, and have been excersizing with wieghts the last couple weeks. 25 years in front of a computer screen sure took its toll. Will definitely be spending the winter getting in shape for next year's Service Match.
Two Suggestions
1. Lose the M14 and get an AR, lighter cheaper to shoot and you can put junk on the raills and look like the cool kids. Just kidding abbout the last part. NEA are offering sub $1K CANADIAN MADE AR's thru One Shot, have a look!
2. Take CrossFit, it a reall hard but good workout. I suffer from my eyes glazing over staring at a computer screen and have done so for 20+ years and have a body to boot. I have been taking crossfit for over a month now and I feel great, but not after the workouts, there are tough but excellent. Lots of Guys in Service and CQB have been taking CrossFit for a while now.
try this, tape a laser to your barrel for practicing, as you move you will get instant feedback on how much the muzzle is moving. this is a trick that I picked up from pro paintballer Maximus Lundquist. this guy can run full tilt and shoot the hell out of pie plate target. not duck walking, running, fast.
Dryfired with both M14 and M4 today, the M14 being so long does make it pretty awkward to shoot on the move with, not exactly the ideal CQB weapon...but then neither was the C1A1 or C2...lol
I found best results with the M14 was to extend the support arm all the way out but because of the length I tended to want to bring it back and that brought the muzzle over...much easier with the AR.
