Weatherby Fan's

I always thought that the 378Wby was the king of the .375's
It is the biggest and the fastest right? :stirthepot2:

The .375 Holland&Holland is king. .......Why?

Well lets just say it was his birthright. Being a King comes from birthright, not from opinion or voting of the masses.

He was born to be a king,..... sired from the loins of Kingly gun makers(H&H).

The .378 Weatherby,... would be his most trusted knight,....... born of humble beginings, but through his absolute ability, rising to great heights,....... one whom the King himself knows, is the most mighty of warriors,.. but because he loves his King, would never flaunt his prowess in public. The King's respect, is all the great knight desires.

The .375 Ruger , well........., he would make a good little squire for the great knight, provided he remained humble and practised everyday.:D
 
A rifle that will group well from a bench is great and certainly offers a degree of bragging rights. However, how that same rifle performs under field conditions can be something else all-together.

I have some guns that shoot fantastic at the range but somehow fall short in the field(Poor fit, balance etc.). Getting back to the point made about a gun having to feel right to the shooter. For me, YMMV, the Weatherby's seem to shoulder, and point very naturally. Particulary the Standard actioned versions.

Shot this buck on a dead(no pun intended)run @ just under 200yds. He piled up instantly hitting the ground with such force it broke it's jaw.

Taken with a .240 Ultra-lightweight. 3-9x42 Kahles AH in Talley rings/bases.

95gr. Nosler BT @ 3300fps( good for .565") Note the bullet exit, not bad for a 6mm!

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Now if only Weatherby would come out with their version of a short mag...we could have the most epic thread ever.
 
I will give Weatherby the number one spot for stupidest feature ever given to a propietary cartridge line. Sticking a belt on the 30-06 and 416 Rigby cases. All in the name of what? Oh ya, the gimmick master himself, Roy Weatherby, did it for marketing.....:HR:
Almost dumber than sticking magnum performance in a short action:rolleyes:
 
I will give Weatherby the number one spot for stupidest feature ever given to a propietary cartridge line. Sticking a belt on the 30-06 and 416 Rigby cases. All in the name of what? Oh ya, the gimmick master himself, Roy Weatherby, did it for marketing.....:HR:
Almost dumber than sticking magnum performance in a short action:rolleyes:

Laughing!
 
No talk of the new S2 or Series 2 Vanguard?

They're incredible. They have some great grip inserts in the stock and a terrific 2.5lb 2 stage trigger. Guaranteed sub MOA. Three position safety finally.

The Monte carlo stock should fit me just as well as the one on my current Weatherby. I plan to buy one as soon as they are available here!

Oh, $450 too.
 
The Vanguard would be even better if they dropped those Winchester Stubby Magnum chamberings. Bring back the 270Wby! And maybe add the 240Wby.
 
I will give Weatherby the number one spot for stupidest feature ever given to a propietary cartridge line. Sticking a belt on the 30-06 and 416 Rigby cases. All in the name of what? Oh ya, the gimmick master himself, Roy Weatherby, did it for marketing.....:HR:
Almost dumber than sticking magnum performance in a short action:rolleyes:

Wait... you forgot to include Holland & Holland to share "the number one spot for stupidest feature ever given to a proprietary cartridge line" after all Weatherby developed most his cartridges from the H&H.

As for the .240 and rigby based chamberings: 378,416,460 keep in mind most of these were developed in the peak of the Magnum craze, and the shooting public associated "Magnum" with a belted cartridge. A marketing ploy...yes, but it's easier to market and sell something thats in demand.

Let's see how many of our new crop of non-belted magnums last as long as the "stupid" and "gimmicky" Weatherby magnums.
 
Wait... you forgot to include Holland & Holland to share "the number one spot for stupidest feature ever given to a proprietary cartridge line" after all Weatherby developed most his cartridges from the H&H.

As for the .240 and rigby based chamberings: 378,416,460 keep in mind most of these were developed in the peak of the Magnum craze, and the shooting public associated "Magnum" with a belted cartridge. A marketing ploy...yes, but it's easier to market and sell something thats in demand.

Let's see how many of our new crop of non-belted magnums last as long as the "stupid" and "gimmicky" Weatherby magnums.

Yeah if you want brand loyalty you make your guns all look similar. Then the cartridges need shoulder to share and since 6 of them have a belt then you make the rest have a belt.

Gimmicky is the WSM line. Totally redundant and the short fat light crap is just that.
 
Wait... you forgot to include Holland & Holland to share "the number one spot for stupidest feature ever given to a proprietary cartridge line" after all Weatherby developed most his cartridges from the H&H.

As for the .240 and rigby based chamberings: 378,416,460 keep in mind most of these were developed in the peak of the Magnum craze, and the shooting public associated "Magnum" with a belted cartridge. A marketing ploy...yes, but it's easier to market and sell something thats in demand.

Let's see how many of our new crop of non-belted magnums last as long as the "stupid" and "gimmicky" Weatherby magnums.

Ummm H&H used the belt because they HAD to. You can't head space on the shoulder that exists on the .300 and .375. It wasn't a gimmick, they didn't want to use a rim and retard feeding in a Mauser.
Your second paragraph affirms my accusation of it all being a marketing gimmick.
Last I checked the 300 WSM is consistently outselling the 300 Weatherby on all fronts (dies, brass, ammunition).
Weatherby has always had to lie about their velocity, use longer barrels, max out pressure in their factory ammo, and use freebore to get any credible gain over their contemporaries. Like I said, gimmicks. :)
 
Ummm H&H used the belt because they HAD to. You can't head space on the shoulder that exists on the .300 and .375. It wasn't a gimmick, they didn't want to use a rim and retard feeding in a Mauser.
Your second paragraph affirms my accusation of it all being a marketing gimmick.
Last I checked the 300 WSM is consistently outselling the 300 Weatherby on all fronts (dies, brass, ammunition).
Weatherby has always had to lie about their velocity, use longer barrels, max out pressure in their factory ammo, and use freebore to get any credible gain over their contemporaries. Like I said, gimmicks. :)

Are you just being argumentative :p Here's back at you:

You condemn Weatherby's development of their line of cartridges because they have the "stupidest feature ever given to a propietary cartridge line" then qualify and defend Holland & Holland's use of same "stupid feature" :rolleyes:
Quote: "Your second paragraph affirms my accusation of it all being a marketing gimmick" Uh..Yeah ... I said as much myself f:P: You certainly are astute.

You wanna talk about marketing gimmick's - Winchester convinced the shooting industry and public to buy into a line of cartridges that offer nothing performance-wise over the cartridges they're compared to.
By the way, how many WSM's you got in the safe ;) sorry, I meant WSSM's:kickInTheNuts:

As for the velocity claims, Weatherby's numbers can sometimes be optimistic by SAAMI specifications(CUP & 24" test barrels) but keep in mind he...wait for it...."MARKETED" his rifles and cartridges as a system to work in unison.

All my Weatherby Chamberings meet advertised velocity's when shot in my Weatherby rifles
 
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