Update: Bushmaster ACR

As much as i like the look of the ACR and as much i would like to get one , with this new classification i see it joining the small # of non restricted , inflated , 1/3 of the gun population being able to get it ..

Everytime something is non restricted it suddenly is retailed for 1000$ more than its worth if it was restricted which is nonsense . Not everyone can just drop 2 or 3 grand whenever they happen to scratch their balls .

and i believe sales of said firearms will reflect this ..
 
Personally I would buy the standard ACR with non-folding stock have a gunsmith in the US remove the barrel and have the remains shipped up by prophet river. Have it registered as a non-restricted and fit a Questar Barrel.
 
nemesisincanada said:
Personally I would buy the standard ACR with non-folding stock have a gunsmith in the US remove the barrel and have the remains shipped up by prophet river. Have it registered as a non-restricted and fit a Questar Barrel.
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Right, because it's so easy... even a caveman could do it. This assumes so many things - the least of which is not getting ripped off on Gunbroker, finding a competent gunsmith that won't miss any of the key piston/quick-release components and obtaining the necessary import/export approval (because even sans barrel, this is still a firearm). Best-case scenario you end up saving a few hundred dollars or break even. Worst-case, you have a very expensive paperweight.

Kc.338Lp said:
As much as i like the look of the ACR and as much i would like to get one , with this new classification i see it joining the small # of non restricted , inflated , 1/3 of the gun population being able to get it .. Everytime something is non restricted it suddenly is retailed for 1000$ more than its worth if it was restricted which is nonsense . Not everyone can just drop 2 or 3 grand whenever they happen to scratch their balls/
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Worth is in the eye of the beholder... I'll be into my ACR for about the same as a Tavor or FS2000, less than a Swiss arms and far less than an SL8 conversion or actual G36. And this is with a match-grade stainless steel barrel chambered in .223 Wylde, aluminum hand guard and folding/collapsible stock (all options or upgrades on most of the others). Compared to an XCR - it's worth every penny. But to each their own...
 
firemachine69 said:
How dare you post about the ACR... without pics! :p
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As ordered.

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After enhancements (in black, of course). Pictures c/o Saskatoon Gunworks and Questar.
 
I never said it was easy or without risk. I'm sorry Blaxsun if I gave that impression. I'm not saying the price that Sasktoon gunworks is asking is not reasonable just that there maybe another way to go.
However, it is not impossible nor particular difficult if you research it and are prepared to wait. The ACR is not popular in the States it is not selling well, it would serve Bushmaster to make a 20 inch HBAR version for export and sell it for $2200.
 
nemesisincanada said:
I never said it was easy or without risk. I'm sorry Blaxsun if I gave that impression. I'm not saying the price that Sasktoon gunworks is asking is not reasonable just that there maybe another way to go.
However, it is not impossible nor particular difficult if you research it and are prepared to wait. The ACR is not popular in the States it is not selling well, it would serve Bushmaster to make a 20 inch HBAR version for export and sell it for $2200.
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I know of a basic ACR that was imported privately that required several export permits and took in excess of 6 months (the export permits alone were $750). This was before brokerage, shipping, customs, duty and taxes - which placed the final cost well in excess of $2,750. One also has to weigh the time involved in such a venture along with the associated risks in privately purchasing a firearm sight-unseen. It can certainly be done, but it's not for the faint-hearted...

The ACR faces some strict competition in the US, particularly so with its target market being hard-core AR owners. A 20-inch HBAR version would probably be a bit unwieldy, because the ACR already suffers from weight issues with respect to the factory barrel. The 18.7" match barrel from Questar is actually substantially lighter than the factory 16.5", and it's chambered in .223 Wylde.

nemesisincanada said:
Is it worth that much more then an XCR. I find this to not be a credible statement. Both have had issues and XCR has been in production longer.
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Without necessarily going into the reasons and at the risk of turning this into another XCR bashing thread, unequivocally - yes; the ACR is worth every penny.
 
Other than saskatoon gunworks, other companies importing ACRS ? I would love to get one for my birthday... :)

Do you know if there are outrageous preorder lines like the RFB....?
 
xopher said:
Other than saskatoon gunworks, other companies importing ACRS ? I would love to get one for my birthday... :)

Do you know if there are outrageous preorder lines like the RFB....?
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Not that I'm aware of, but Saskatoon Gunworks has been absolutely fantastic to deal with for the ACR. I suspect interest has (or will) be very high, so don't delay!
 
Im not sure if you guys have seen this, but the asian man in vancouver with all the guns has a pretty sick ACR. I believe in the comments he said hes using a lothar walther 12.5 inch barrel. Does anyone know where i can find one?
 
Does anyone know that Chinese guy? How come he got all the guns? Is he really that rich? And how can he get some guns like ACR and Kriss Super V way before the gun is offically imported to Canada?
 
I can't speak for how others got their guns but we imported a small quantity of ACR's over a year ago, just before the RCMP froze the FRT # for a "review".

I could be wrong but it was my understanding that ours were the first to enter the country... but I also believe that the fellow out west got his right around the same time (he might have beat us, I'm not really sure :)).

The initial FRT # was put into the system automatically by the RCMP right after the 2010 SHOT Show, before any guns had actually been imported.

I was contacted by Bushmaster (last year) to find out what restrictions we had on our export permit... they had received an export permit but it would not allow 5.56 marked/chambered barrels, or threaded barrels, or flash suppressors, or folding/collapsible stocks. They were very curious about our permit and how we had been able to import our guns. It was at that time that they indicated they were going to be making a run of "Canadian" version guns for Gravel to distribute in Canada and to comply with their US Export Permit restrictions.

Mark
 
I just got the phone call from Saskatoon guns, They are getting ready to ship my ACR out, finally only 10 months of waiting and it should be at my door in about 1 week. hey blaxson you got any goodies that I should know about???
 
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Description is: BUSHMASTER 90707 ACR 223 16.5 BSC BRN 30
MSRP is: MSRP: $2,142.07 Your cost is:$1,581.48
Available units is: 34

I hope I can import this myself for less than $1500 so I can break even.......:slap:
 
The initial FRT # was put into the system automatically by the RCMP right after the 2010 SHOT Show, before any guns had actually been imported.
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So they can go to a gun show and figure out enough details to make an entry but back home, with a sample, they need two plus years? I get it.
 
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