TDI KRISS and HK USC/UMP

chkam said:
They are sensitive with what ammo you use. Sometime you will have FTE and double feed. It is also a ##### to change the barrel.
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What kind of ammo did you find the Kriss didn't like? Fussy on hollow points? Better on FMJ's? Fussy on reloads? Or was it brand preference. I'm super interested in this gun and want a heads-up before I chuck the $$. Also, who did the barrel and did they supply the new barrel or did you have to get it? If so, where? Sorry for the question diarrhea.
 
Uberfiend said:
What kind of ammo did you find the Kriss didn't like? Fussy on hollow points? Better on FMJ's? Fussy on reloads? Or was it brand preference. I'm super interested in this gun and want a heads-up before I chuck the $$. Also, who did the barrel and did they supply the new barrel or did you have to get it? If so, where? Sorry for the question diarrhea.
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I used CCI 230 Grain Round Nose. I think Remington 230 Grain and American Eagle will be the best. Don;t even consider using hollowpoint, u will have feeding problem. It is fussy on reloads, I think mainly due to the OAL, I tried my friend's reload and it is no go.

My word of advice, since this technology is new, don;t expect to ditch $3K and expect the gun to run flawlessly. It will have minor problems. My last round won;t hold the bolt open but it was fixed by my gunsmith. I talk to KRISS and I think they have modified that. If you bolt is closed and try to put a loaded mag, you really need to hammer the mag to lock the mag but still, you might have feeding problem.

So far, it took me and my gunsmith 3 to 4 months to fix the problem. Now, this is the gun I love the most.
 
According to the video above, this fellow had much the same issues with feeding and jamming that he apparently fixed with "proper cleaning and lubrication". Not sure what that means exactly unless the manual is very exact on what types of lubricating material is used and quantities etc. Following this closely though as i have been waiting to get a hold of a short barrel Kriss when/if they arrive. Just couldn't make myself love the long barrel enough.
 
More Bulls**t

I'm just thinking out loud here, and there might be some "sour grapes" but this weapon was designed as a full auto, I'm sure that the RCMP watch the military channel on there lunch time.How does this gun get approved and the SCAR which is a "manufactured only semi-auto" not get approved?:confused:
BTW in case the RCMP missed the episode the KRISS was the #1 CQB weapon.Oh NO not another T97!!!:HR:

SCAR;d:h:

KRISS::rockOn:

SCAR Owner::kickInTheNuts:
 
mildot said:
I'm just thinking out loud here, and there might be some "sour grapes" but this weapon was designed as a full auto, I'm sure that the RCMP watch the military channel on there lunch time.How does this gun get approved and the SCAR which is a "manufactured only semi-auto" not get approved?:confused:
BTW in case the RCMP missed the episode the KRISS was the #1 CQB weapon.Oh NO not another T97!!!:HR:

SCAR;d:h:

KRISS::rockOn:

SCAR Owner::kickInTheNuts:
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Uhh what?

The SCAR is a Mil Spec weapon and the military version is capable of full auto.

The Civilian version is designed differently to only be able to fire Semi-Auto. The reason in which its not yet available, is the same reason the RCMP had my friends .22 rifle he is going to sell, for over a year. They were waiting back and hoping the conservatives got a weaker position, so they had no reason to verify the guns.


The KRISS was originally designed as a sub machinegun with full auto, and then a semi-auto only version was designed of it.


Its not like they are taking these guns and making a few little changes and saying "Its all good". They are usually designed quite differently. Even looking at the USC/UMP conversions, it is PHYSICALLY impossible to fit the full auto trigger group without cutting out portions of the upper receiver, which is why you take the USC trigger parts and put it into the UMP lower housing.
 
Uhh what?
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The point is that the argument for the non issue of the FRT is that the SCAR has a "safety sear".They believe that it can be mated with corresponding uppers and lowers, and create a full auto weapon.
The KRISS is a full auto capable sub gun, similar to the MIL version of the SCAR, what's the "hang up"?

So, that being said, it appears that the KRISS is a manufactured only semi?
Sounds alot like my original argument about the SCAR.
 
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Glock 18 is full auto, whole different animal than the 17. Just because it's looks like a woman doesn't mean it is a woman. The rc's fortunately are smart enough to differentiate and still approve (rather fail to disapprove) some cool range toys for us lowly civvies. Same goes for the kriss semi.
 
mildot said:
The point is that the argument for the non issue of the FRT is that the SCAR has a "safety sear".They believe that it can be mated with corresponding uppers and lowers, and create a full auto weapon.
The KRISS is a full auto capable sub gun, similar to the MIL version of the SCAR, what's the "hang up"?

So, that being said, it appears that the KRISS is a manufactured only semi?
Sounds alot like my original argument about the SCAR.
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You're trying to inject logic into the RCMP's thinking process. There is none. Its a scarey military style firearm and the RCMP is looking for any way they can to not issue a restricted or non restricted FRT for it.
 
For the hell of it I emailed Kriss to see if they have plans to produce it in a 10 mm version. No such luck. They are focusing on a .40 and then a 9mm version. I can't be the only one that thinks 9 mm is overdone and that a 10 mm would be getting close to perfection in this firearm.
 
bbartsch said:
For the hell of it I emailed Kriss to see if they have plans to produce it in a 10 mm version. No such luck. They are focusing on a .40 and then a 9mm version. I can't be the only one that thinks 9 mm is overdone and that a 10 mm would be getting close to perfection in this firearm.
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If you roll your own, you might be interested in a comment by an American, Clark Magnusson, who likes to test guns and ammunition to destruction. He claims that, because the .40 case is stronger than the 10 mm case, it can be loaded hotter. As I recall, it requires packing the smaller case to its limit with the hottest-burning powder around.

I don't reload and cannot verify the claim but look forward to hearing from those who can.

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