Is a .223 enough for deer???

blasted_saber said:
You're mistaken. I dont know that its ever been illegal in ON to use a .223. Certainly not anything close to that recently.
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Do yourself a favor and prove your words. Go to the Ministry of Natural Resources of Ontario and copy and paste your assertions. Come back and prove many of us all wrong. I know, it'll take you all of two minutes to figure it out. At which time you can retract your statement.
 
evilhaze said:
The Fudd is strong with this group.
OP, good luck trying to put down a deer with the advice you get from these "pro hunters" Go ahead and use your Stevens .223 (the same rifle in .308 only costs $375)
More than likely you will be looking at a white tail trailing in the distance.
I can tell you with all honesty that I am no pro.
I've only ever took the guidance of my predecessors and hunted with an adequate round. .223 was NOT among those for deer.
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The fact remains that the .223 is legal in many statws and provinces, and although many here say "NO!!" there are many more who use the .223 Remington and other such cartridges year in and year out for deer, black bear, caribou, and other such critters and wounding and losing no more than the people shooting bigger cartridges.
just because it is not considered good form on one part of the country does not mean that is it actually so.

I have friends who carry nothing but and have no problem killing deer and moose every year with them.
Would I? No, but then I have a bunch of other guns to hunt deer with, including anemic old BP cartridge rifles and muzzle loaders!
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captonion said:
No need to retract his statement. 223 ha s never been illegal in Ont for deer. Prove him wrong if you see fit.
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Your more than right, in my mood, I mistook the illegal for legal. I humbly apologize, as I have taken many deer with the .223 myself and somehow misconstrued the post. To many have already posted of the illegal use of the .223 for deer, kind of pisses me off.
 
My first deer fell to a 22 short many many moons ago when it was impossible for a 16 year old to hunt in Alberta because he didn't have a drivers license so a 223 would be almost a elephant gun in comparison. Being growen up with a drivers license now I can use what I want. I wouldn't be scared to tackle most critters with a 223.
 
captonion said:
No need to retract his statement. 223 has never been illegal in Ont for deer. Prove him wrong if you see fit.
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I went through the Ontario regs three times and saw minimums for bow and muzzle loader, and cross bow, but only "centre fire rifle" for the rifles.
I'm sure there must be other regulations however, because I was always under the impression you could not use a cartridge over .270 in Southern Ontario, or was that for small game only??

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When I took my hunter training course in Ontario in Deep River in 1998, the minimum calibre was stated to be .23 for big game, meaning the .243 was the smallest cartridge that was legal.

I don't know if the rules have changed over the last 13 years or not.
 
catnthehatt said:
I went through the Ontario regs three times and saw minimums for bow and muzzle loader, and cross bow, but only "centre fire rifle" for the rifles.
I'm sure there must be other regulations however, because I was always under the impression you could not use a cartridge over .270 in Southern Ontario, or was that for small game only??

Cat
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the 270 restriction is for small game only, because there is no rifle season for deer only shotgun and bows depending on your area. When I took my hunter education course the teacher said that hunting deer with a 22 RIMFIRE was not allowed, but 223, 22-250 etc was allowed. I have not read anything in the regulations to contradict this.
I have no intention of ever hunting deer with a 223 so if it is or isn't allowed doesn't really matter to me
 
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The notion that a 223 through the lungs is better than .30 superblaster through the guts/leg/rump while true, is silly....It seems to imply that every moron running around trying to hose down deer with a 300 mag would be magically transformed into a marksman with a .223. A S**t shot is a S**t shot no matter what round he/she chambers in their rifle.

Yes, we can all agree that a .223 will kill a deer. But how many people would have the restraint to wait for ideal broadside shots and keep ranges reasonable AND use quality projectiles? Not all, thats for sure. Let's face it, there are plenty of idiot hunters out there and we have all met one or two. No one can argue that a .270/.308 is going to give a hunter a lot more leeway for penetration on quartering away/towards shots, not to mention that any box of ammo your average numpty picks up from crappy tire in those calibers is likely to have a bullet staunch enough for deer. Not the same for your average box of .223 ammo.

Lastly, if I EVER see a hunter shooting at big game with a rimfire, that rifle is getting shoved butt deep right up their rear end, there is no excuse for that kind of hunting these days. Disgusting
 
martinbns said:
When I took my hunter training course in Ontario in Deep River in 1998, the minimum calibre was stated to be .23 for big game, meaning the .243 was the smallest cartridge that was legal.

I don't know if the rules have changed over the last 13 years or not.
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Might have been stated by who was giving the course, but it wasn't in print.

It has always been center fire only for big game in Ont..No caliber restriction.

Perhaps this was one of the questions you got wrong on the test...Just saying.
 
captonion said:
Might have been stated by who was giving the course, but it wasn't in print.

It has always been center fire only for big game in Ont..No caliber restriction.

Perhaps this was one of the questions you got wrong on the test...Just saying.
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:agree:

The regs in my hand, as I type this, state for any big game, Yes to "Centre Fire Rifle". No to Rimfire rifle, & No use of shotgun smaller than 20 guage when loaded with shot smaller than #1 buck.
 
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