Anybody here fondled a new win 94?

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Winchester repeating arms seems to be back on the block almost like they used to, but I haven't read anything about their new lever action in here.
Price have gone up, now manufactured in Japan...
I think their 94 sporter is one fine looking gun so I'd like to hear what the CGN member have to say about them.

Thanks :)
 
Ive tried but been sorely disappointed at both the Toronto Sportsmen Show (Winchester rep claimed they were having trouble getting them over the border) and at Huntfest, where Winchester wasnt even represented.
 
blasted_saber said:
Ive tried but been sorely disappointed at both the Toronto Sportsmen Show (Winchester rep claimed they were having trouble getting them over the border) and at Huntfest, where Winchester wasnt even represented.
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Good job if CBSA keeps those evil '94's out of Canada. Do you realize how many people those guns have killed in Westerns? They were the favourite rifle of terrorists and gangs in their heyday (according to Hollywood). My kids and grandkids will sleep safer tonight.

BTW - only police and military should have guns. Oh, and maybe the security and body guards for rich people.
 
I am curious as well, would love to hear someones impression of the new winchesters, I love the look of the model 92, I am happy to pay the higher price if they realy are well built and finished.
 
I've had the opportunity to handle both the Model 94 Sporter and Short (or carbine) side by side, although I didn't get to work the actions of either. They
were both very nice rifles and if they live up to FN standards, they are also very well built. I found the Sporter, with its 24 inch barrel, a little front heavy,
but the Short rifle was very well balanced and a real pleasure to hold, in my opinion. Personally, I think the price is a little high right now, but hopefully it
will come down as the novelty wears off.
 
358 BLR said:
Personally, I think the price is a little high right now, but hopefully it
will come down as the novelty wears off.
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The price was surprising, especially considering that the 1886 is going for pretty much the same amount.
 
Was about to handle one when the wife called (while at gun counter......:mad:) and told me she booked our Hawaii trip. Figured a carbine '92 was gonna follow me home. :kickInTheNuts:

I'm guessing that lack of real info (people who have bought one) on the net might be a good thing. If they were a bad product, there would be people ranting about it.

Or could be because they haven't sold allot so far.....?
 
I've read good stuff about the Miroku (spelling?) built gun, some Browning are from there also, and they have a good rep to say the least.
I really like the fact that the Winchester are very close to the original design, save from the tang safety, angle eject and being drilled and tapped for scope. Those are actually improvement for the use I'd have for one anyway... Well maybe not the safety but it's not a deal breaker.
 
Why not? said:
The Mirokus are perhaps the best 94s ever made, but somehow I just can't get my head wrapped around the price.

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I agree Ted, it will probably prove to be one of the best, but they're resurrecting a classic so I think they're sort of feeling out what the market
demand for that little gem will be. It definitely doesn't help that one of their main competitors, Marlin, is having such a tough time right now. I sure hope
that Marlin/Remington get their sh#t together PDQ.
 
358 BLR said:
...It definitely doesn't help that one of their main competitors, Marlin, is having such a tough time right now. I sure hope that Marlin/Remington get their sh#t together PDQ.
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It doesn't help that Browning and Winchester are both owned by FN Herstal. Not much competition in levers these days. Whose left: Henry, Puma, the Italian replica manufacturers?
 
The one i handled was one of the finest 94's from any time period very smooth,tight tolerances, the trigger was very clean, light and crisp, wood to metal Finnish was perfect, the bluing had a nice deep luster. definitely quality all the way.
 
fugawi said:
It doesn't help that Browning and Winchester are both owned by FN Herstal. Not much competition in levers these days. Whose left: Henry, Puma, the Italian replica manufacturers?
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And again I bring it up - Savage isn't owned by FN, they don't have the quality issues that Remington/Marlin are facing and have a pretty nifty design...if only they would start...
 
fugawi said:
It doesn't help that Browning and Winchester are both owned by FN Herstal. Not much competition in levers these days. Whose left: Henry, Puma, the Italian replica manufacturers?
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I like FN, they make "Good Stuff" and as a consumer, I like to reward "Good Stuff" by buying it, but don't "poo hoo" Henry as an also ran, because I think
they see the crack in the door and I think they're going to go for it. It's going to be interesting to watch this marketing battle work itself out: there's a huge
void left open by the Marlington debacle and if FN had their wits about them they'd be flooding the market with well built, reasonably priced Winchesters.
But Bean Counters can rarely see the forest through the trees and I think the Henry's and the Puma's will be cutting down tree's while FN is busy picking up
beans, in my opinion anyway. But you never know, so like I said, it's going to be interesting to watch.:D
 
Jeff/1911 said:
What price do these new 94's go for?
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I would suspect you'd be looking at $1300+ depending on configuration.

Winchester got it right with the new Model 70. They failed,IMO, with the new levers. The US consumers tear apart Brownings for being made in Japan. I don't think the new levers are as well received as they could be for the simple fact that an iconic American rifle like the '94 should be made in the US.
I have nothing against Miroku and they make great guns, but that bbl. stamp will hinder sales.
 
I have one of the Winchester Miroku's in the 92 TD model, 32-20. Outstanding fit and finish. The rebound hammer and tang safety are fine by me but many forums don't like them. Mine works great but light primer strikes have been reported.

There are often good quality pre-64 94s on the exchange. I bought one of those rather than the new 94.
 
In my Japanese 92 the fit and finish are superb. Much better than many guns under a $1000 I have not bought a better rifle. All the added lawyer stuff is overdone but my rifle behaves flawlessly. I find the other forums have a real problem that it is not a "true" Winchester and dismiss them. Most of the adamant detractors have never handled or fired one. They are not common in Canada or the US so most forum chatter is not fact based.

Anyone who owns one is very happy. As noted on this thread anyone who handles one is usually impressed. They are expensive however. They are no longer a reasonable working guys rifle for deer hunting. They are built to a level that compares to any other high end rifle produced today in the same price range.

If the price is doable I can assure you the rifle will be a fine firearm.
 
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