actually, the REALLy old ones have simply the norinco star and the "made in p.r.o.c. and the serial- that's the ones with the notch in the rail and the angled scope mount- in order to be a 12(3) automatic it has to be a USGI made m14- there are some 'modified" chinese m14s out there, but they're lumped in with the semi-auto - you can tell these by the take-down notch and the re-blue-/park of where the lug USED to go