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A while back I sent in my entry to participate in the World IDPA Shoot and I intended to shoot in SSR.

Unfortunately I put the circle in the wrong place on the form and I ended up in ESR.

A few weeks back when I realized that I was in the wrong division I sent an e-mail to head office about this but was not afforded the courtesy of a reply.

Today I called the office and they pulled my paperwork to take a look and they informed me that my form was clearly marked, ESR rather than SSR. OK I have no problem in believing this, so what is the issue, other than my stupidity which I will freely admit. I was also told that in the match material it clearly states that no division changes are permitted so I am now stuck in ESR, like it or not.

One small problem, I don't have a 4 inch gun for ESR. If I had a 4 inch gun for this division I would have shrugged my shoulders and just got on with it.

I was told by

Robert kindly offered to get me a loaner and I know enough folks in Florida that I can probably make my own arrangements if I really want to, which I will probably do in the end. That is not the point though.

The final kicker is this drama is fact that there are still slots left, so in theory I could make another application at $300 in addition to the original $250 that I have already paid to try and get a slot slot in SSR if I really want to shoot this. This will be a fine of $300 for a circle in the wrong place if I got the slot. Ooch!

Does this make sense to anyone out there?

Robert was very polite and he explained that the logic behind the no change policy is intended to stop competitors (sand baggers) from jumping divisions when they see the competition that they are facing.

So the moral of the story is check your paperwork carefully if you plan to shoot a match like this with IDPA as a simple mistake could cost you. Better still, if you need them, make sure you find those glasses before you tackle the paperwork as this might also help you to avoid the issue entirely!

As for myself I am so turned off by the stupidity of this situation that I am seriously considering kissing goodbye to my entry fee and forgetting about the whole thing.

Am I out to lunch here, or do we need a few changes in IDPA HQ to accommodate the ordinary shooter who is willing to stump up the fee to support a match like this? There is $250 for entry plus travel to Florida, hotels meals and so on and so on....

If there are problem people sort them out, don't discourage new IDPA shooters (like myself) from even trying to participate in an event by having them encounter a level of bureaucracy that, in my albeit biased opinion beggars belief.

What do you think?
 
What do I think....?
I think there's something wrong with a game or rather the people playing the game if this division jumping you mention is going on to such an extent that they have to stick to this ruling... Talk about gamey.

I love 3-gun in the US.. Very little bull####. No wait... No bull####.
Send an email to the organizers before the match and ask to be put in a different division... No problem. Hell, change it when you show up at registration on match day.
Of course once you star the match your stuck.. Unless you do something that would bump you into open...
 
Why would they release the names of your "competition" in your division prior to the event? If they simply didn't publish that, nobody would have cause to division jump.

Sounds like this is a problem of their own making really.
 
wow, thats pretty ####ed up. Hmm, logic would dictate that someone who lives in a country that doesn't allow the guns used in a division wouldn't sign up for that on purpose. Find it funny that they call their match by the same name as the evil IPSC world championship. Seem like a pretty stupid rule, what if your gun breaks just before and you have nothing else that fits your designated division? Thanks for your donation now bugger off
 
Why would they release the names of your "competition" in your division prior to the event? If they simply didn't publish that, nobody would have cause to division jump.

Sounds like this is a problem of their own making really.

Releasing the names of the registered shooters is not really uncommon - just check out the IPSC BC website or last years Nationals. Not really a big deal. If you know the shooters you know the Division they usually shoot in.

The real issue here in my opinion is the arrogance of Robert R at IDPA HQ. There is no LEGITIMATE reason to not allow the OP from correcting his registration mistake.

Just goes to show how much they, IDPA HQ, know about or care about the issues of shooters from Canada.

The OP might want to take the time to contact Canuck44 either via PM or at the contact listed on the IDPA Canada website and ask for his help dealing with this problem.

John
 
Escalate the issue for sure. I see little point of why they won't allow it unless you're the Top 5 shooter in your division otherwise it's just an honest mistake and you're in no way taking advantage of this by switching.
 
To get back in SSR I have requested a refund of my original registration fee.

On Monday I will be sending by courier a new application and the net cost for my stupidity will be $50.

Lets hope that I can get my slot back.
 
wow, thats pretty f**ked up. Hmm, logic would dictate that someone who lives in a country that doesn't allow the guns used in a division wouldn't sign up for that on purpose.

The maximum revolver barrel length for both Stock Service Revolver and Enhanced Service Revolver is 4.2" and the last time I looked 4.2" guns are legal in Canada. In order to have a revolver division in Canada we obtained an Exemption for IDPA in Canada. We presently allow 5 & 6 inch guns to compete in Canada. This exemption will likely be withdrawn at some point as both S&W and Ruger now produce 4.2" guns for one of the Divisions. The exemption does not extend beyond our borders. There are no plans at the present time to remove the exemption.

Most of our revolver shooters either take advantage of the exemption, purchase 4.2" guns/cut down existing 5"/6" guns to 4.2" or have 12.6 status.

The OP has chosen to re-apply. PM sent to OP.

Take Care

Bob
 
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I have had further opportunity to explore this issue with IDPA HQ and IDPA Canada and there have been major issues at the U.S. nationals and larger matches due to people suddenly wishing to change divisions after they see who they are going to shot against. This gave match organizers so much grief that in an effort to combat this, they came up with a hard and fast rule that there would be no division changes after the shooting list has been posted. Due to my clerical error I simply fell victim of this hard and fast rule. Thanks to some input from Bob Bonefont at IDPA Canada I am happy to report that by withdrawing from the match and resubmitting a new entry, I am back in SSR.

So guys, just be careful with the paperwork and don't screw up like I did.
 
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