Hunting's for the dogs.

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hunting stories are good, but hunting stories envolving a dog are great. I'd like to here if you are hunting with a furry hunting partner. Say a little about your dog or a lot and What kind of game you hunt for. I'll go first.

I picked Tikka up November 28, 2010. We immidiately began small steps in training and slowly progressed. She did 33 retrieves last season. Would have been more, but it was my first year using steel shot. lol 25 of the retrieves were grouse. She's my "rough shooting dog". Every flush and every retrieve is beautiful to me.

I'll never forget the first flush, it was her first grouse hunt. We got out of the truck at one of the covers I hunt. I just caught a glimpse of a bird silouhette. Chambered two rounds in my O/U 12 gauge and let Tikka out of the truck. "Hunt'em up" and she darted toward the direction of the bird. She was on the foot scent. It was running and I understood once I got on the other side of the jackpines. It was a field full of Labrador tea (Indian tea plant) likea sea of leaves. Tikka started working the through the plants following the follow scent. The bird exploded out of the sea of leaves. I snapped the gun to my sholder and followed through the bird squeezing out a round from the top barrel. I heard the report and watched the bird fall and disappear back into the sea of leaves. Tikka looked in the direction of the bird and then at me. I called "Find the Bird to her" and to my surprise that's what she did. She snapped up the bird and returned it to me. At heel and delivered to hand. It was perfect. It happened so fast, but time seemed like it was standing still.

Getting her to steady at to flush and fall has been a challenge ever since. lol In the blind is another story.I hope to hear about yours
 
hunting stories are good, but hunting stories envolving a dog are great. I'd like to here if you are hunting with a furry hunting partner. Say a little about your dog or a lot and What kind of game you hunt for. I'll go first.

Yes I do.
29lb Beagle
Best dam couch potato deer dog we've had at our camp.
 
Watching my Golden deal with wounded ducks diving just before she caught them was priceless. And watching her reaction when she realized one duck she was bringing in was not dead - YOWZA! WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!?? She still brings them in nice and gentle, dead or alive.
 
You've not seen a dog run until you've seen one chase a wounded goose that's trying to fly. Luna my lab loves to hunt waterfowl but geese are her favorite by far. She has lots of fun chasing ducks that are trying to dive but for her, a goose trying to get on the wing again is her at her best.

She comes in handy in all kinds of situations. Here she is just over a year old retrieving my decoys for me. I don't bother with the waders anymore.

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Don't get me wrong, I LOVE dawgs! You guys are talking about retreivers where you've agumented their instincts with proper training. In the place where I used to hunt, we always had lost dogs, mostly beagles, running all over hell and creation. It may not have been so bad if they'd pushed game our way, but what they did by belling through the bush was move anything away from they were, and as result, away from where we were. Sadly, a lot of the local guys there didn't have either the proper breed, or the proper training, for deer dogs. Let's be honest. Beagles are cute, friendly, cuddly and a joy to have. That's if you ignore the fact that they're dumber than a stump. If I ever wanted a trained deer dog, I'd look at something like a border collie, or an Australian sheep dog. If they're properly trained, the trainer auments their natural desire to herd up animals, and they can push a lot of game your way. I came damned close to shooting one beagle that just kept running back & forth along the same trail and belling like mad. I actually beaded up on it, but just couldn't bring myself to shoot the dumb critter. I put a round in dirt just behind his butt, and he took off like a rocket. Never saw him again after that. I know I didn't hit him, just shot a spray of dirt up his backside. Bear in mind I usually can only manage a week off for hunting. Factor in that we expect to lose at least 2 days to inclement weather, and I hate going home with anunused tags, and you can understand why I'd consider freeing Fido's soul. Mostly, I'm mad at the inconsiderate morons who let their untrained animals loose in the bush to get lost and peeve the other hunters around them.
 
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE dawgs! ... Mostly, I'm mad at the inconsiderate morons who let their untrained animals loose in the bush to get lost and peeve the other hunters around them.

Just a word to the wise... you shoot someone's dog you'd better watch your back.

In some circles saying something like that is like saying you think about shooting children. Could end badly for you.

Not startin' nothin' just sayin'
 
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE dawgs! You guys are talking about retreivers where you've agumented their instincts with proper training. In the place where I used to hunt, we always had lost dogs, mostly beagles, running all over hell and creation. It may not have been so bad if they'd pushed game our way, but what they did by belling through the bush was move anything away from they were, and as result, away from where we were. Sadly, a lot of the local guys there didn't have either the proper breed, or the proper training, for deer dogs. Let's be honest. Beagles are cute, friendly, cuddly and a joy to have. That's if you ignore the fact that they're dumber than a stump. If I ever wanted a trained deer dog, I'd look at something like a border collie, or an Australian sheep dog. If they're properly trained, the trainer auments their natural desire to herd up animals, and they can push a lot of game your way. I came damned close to shooting one beagle that just kept running back & forth along the same trail and belling like mad. I actually beaded up on it, but just couldn't bring myself to shoot the dumb critter. I put a round in dirt just behind his butt, and he took off like a rocket. Never saw him again after that. I know I didn't hit him, just shot a spray of dirt up his backside. Bear in mind I usually can only manage a week off for hunting. Factor in that we expect to lose at least 2 days to inclement weather, and I hate going home with anunused tags, and you can understand why I'd consider freeing Fido's soul. Mostly, I'm mad at the inconsiderate morons who let their untrained animals loose in the bush to get lost and peeve the other hunters around them.

I think only hounds are to be used for running deer in Ont at least. I know at one time that was the case. Collie dogs and others run mostly by sight and will run a deer till they drop. Most hounds run by scent and the deer will often slip them if the hunters don't connect. We used to run mostly Walkers but now have some beagles and black and tans.
We have had dogs shot over the years. It generally takes awhile but eventually the guilty party will become known. They usually don't hunt after that. It takes a special brand of person to shoot a working dog. These dogs are licenced and are often purebred and quite valuable.
 
I think only hounds are to be used for running deer in Ont at least. I know at one time that was the case. Collie dogs and others run mostly by sight and will run a deer till they drop. Most hounds run by scent and the deer will often slip them if the hunters don't connect. We used to run mostly Walkers but now have some beagles and black and tans.
We have had dogs shot over the years. It generally takes awhile but eventually the guilty party will become known. They usually don't hunt after that. It takes a special brand of person to shoot a working dog. These dogs are licenced and are often purebred and quite valuable.

That old saying about rules of hunting with dogs...

Rule # 1. Don't shoot the dog
Rule # 2. Don't shoot the dog handler
Rule # 3. If you break the first rule you had better quickly break the second.
 
we don't use dawgs ourselves.but we have had many lost ones in our camp .we let them spend the night give them water even feed them dried food.some have came back over the years.
 
My favorite dog memory was Coyote hunting the snow was deep but the Coyote would run the frozen creek about 3 feet wide.The Coyote would run by at about 2 feet I would shoot from the hip miss and the dogs would corner him in a stump or bush were he would back in so they could not get behind him!He would run by again boom miss,any way I ran out of shells and had to walk out to the truck for more I was about 50 yards off the road.To shorten the story I never got him some one else did!!
 
I have a number of hound hunting friends- mostly bear, coyote and coon. Most of my coyote hunting friends use running Walkers and one guy has 3 Plotts. My bear hunting buddy keeps 10 hounds, mostly Plotts and Plott crosses. My coon hunting buddy's mostly use Blueticks. I currently have a year and half old, male Plott- Wendel. He's on his way to being a coondawg. I'll likely be driving back down to WV to pick another Plott pup next spring. I love hunting with hounds and coon hunting is a great way to spend a night!
 
That old saying about rules of hunting with dogs...

Rule # 1. Don't shoot the dog
Rule # 2. Don't shoot the dog handler
Rule # 3. If you break the first rule you had better quickly break the second.

Amen.

We had this discussion with a trigger happy friend of mine. Told him simple "She works in the blind as a none slip retriever. If I release her and they make another pass, you'd best keep the gun high and the bead well away from the dog. "
He had to ask the most ignorant Fckn question you could possibly ask "What if I shoot the dog?"

"YOU DON'T SHOOT THE DOG! and if you do You'd best have another round chambered!"

...he doesn't hunt with me any more...I don't know why?
 
Happykal,

That is a duck roller? I have two of them. Mine are duck hunting machines and they are good on grouse too. My five year old is sleeping on the chair next to me. My other roller is a pup in training.
 
I grew up hunting rabbits over beagles. Its the greatest hunting ever till they crossed deer tracks then it was hell. I still occasionally hunt over them but I have had the good fortune of rescuing a basset hound that was left in a garbage bag in a ditch (if I ever find the ####er that put him there I won't be hunting for a while) he's the greatest dog. My best friend leather couch warmer and chick magnet. He hunts to only hot tracks and only cottontails and that damned outdoor cat. He will run jacks and deer but only if I talk him into it. He can run 22kms/h but he tops out at about .22km/h when running a rabbit. He gets them moving tho. I only bring friends who I trust and know how to hunt with dogs when I bring my hounds out. I usually hunt alone with my basset hound cuz he's so ####ing slow but I feel so bad for him in the snow. He's got what seem to be 8" legs and a chest that barely clears 4" off the ground and testicles that damn near drag the ground. I think ill get him some shorts with hand warmer packs this winter lol
 
Two little beagles out in the pen waiting for their first run of the season tomorrow morning. Can't wait to hear them howl!
 
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE dawgs! You guys are talking about retreivers where you've agumented their instincts with proper training. In the place where I used to hunt, we always had lost dogs, mostly beagles, running all over hell and creation. It may not have been so bad if they'd pushed game our way, but what they did by belling through the bush was move anything away from they were, and as result, away from where we were. Sadly, a lot of the local guys there didn't have either the proper breed, or the proper training, for deer dogs. Let's be honest. Beagles are cute, friendly, cuddly and a joy to have. That's if you ignore the fact that they're dumber than a stump. If I ever wanted a trained deer dog, I'd look at something like a border collie, or an Australian sheep dog. If they're properly trained, the trainer auments their natural desire to herd up animals, and they can push a lot of game your way. I came damned close to shooting one beagle that just kept running back & forth along the same trail and belling like mad. I actually beaded up on it, but just couldn't bring myself to shoot the dumb critter. I put a round in dirt just behind his butt, and he took off like a rocket. Never saw him again after that. I know I didn't hit him, just shot a spray of dirt up his backside. Bear in mind I usually can only manage a week off for hunting. Factor in that we expect to lose at least 2 days to inclement weather, and I hate going home with anunused tags, and you can understand why I'd consider freeing Fido's soul. Mostly, I'm mad at the inconsiderate morons who let their untrained animals loose in the bush to get lost and peeve the other hunters around them.


Sounds like your old gang had no idea how to hunt! Also sounds like your all in favour of jumping into the middle of some-one elses hunt to get your count but don't want to put up with the dog that brought it to you! I don't know who you are or where you hunt but I sure as hell hope it's not in zone 57, we don't need your kind around here!
While not top obedience:rolleyes: dogs they are far smarter than raters give them credit for. All dogs not just Beagle are diff with their own temperments. From my observation from hunting for 40 yrs is dogs (any bred) kept in a pen are the ones that don't tend to come back from a chase so fast, maybe it's because they don't have a reason too??!! We use Beagle in our camp because they run slower, & if kept as house dogs tend to run for much short lengths of time before they return to the dog man. We haven't lost or looked for a dog for 10 yrs, & chases tend to average about an hr before the dog is back to dogger & looking for a new avenue of fun.
 
I came damned close to shooting one beagle that just kept running back & forth along the same trail and belling like mad. I actually beaded up on it, but just couldn't bring myself to shoot the dumb critter. I put a round in dirt just behind his butt, and he took off like a rocket. Never saw him again after that. I know I didn't hit him, just shot a spray of dirt up his backside.

Shame on you! You shouldnt have hunting rights for these actions. You sir may have ruined this dog for hunting by making hin gun shy.

Mostly, I'm mad at the inconsiderate morons who let their untrained animals loose in the bush to get lost and peeve the other hunters around them.

The more hunters/ and dogs in the woods, the greater the chance you have of gettin deer.

When the deer get moved around by hunters or dogs, they are out of their comfort zones. They get pushed to an area where it is not their home, or area of comfort. This is where they have no routine, or escape routes they commonly use. The deer will do their best to get back to the comfort zone. This is when they make big mistakes that put them on the meet pole. You have to be there to be the one to do it, and not back at camp crying about dogs and other hunters chasing all your deer away.

I have found that seasons with less hunters in the bush is when I have seen less deer. Not a coincidence!
 
Happykal,

That is a duck roller? I have two of them. Mine are duck hunting machines and they are good on grouse too. My five year old is sleeping on the chair next to me. My other roller is a pup in training.

How do you find they are with geese? I've been looking for a good dog to retrieve birds. From what I hear the tollers are great, but they struggle with the size of some geese. Do you find this to be the case?
 
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