My Polish M44 Mosin Nagant
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His rifle, his property, his decision. The work looks to be of very good quality, and if he decides to post a range report, then I would look at it with great interest. Each to his/her own. I might have tried an M38 with a replacement bolt with a bolt handle modification - no impact on collector value as there is no bayoent and mounting to remove (take out the replacement bolt and slip in the original - bingo!). I picked up an all-matching, non-refurbished Russian 1946 M44 for $175 US on Saturday at a local gun show, and all I will be doing with it is light reversible accurizing and hand loading. This is fine for me. Range report, along with my Lee-Enfields, sometime in the near future.
Can they be ordered across the border?? I was thinking of modding my bolt, but at the same time I know what kind of welder I am
Can they be ordered across the border?? I was thinking of modding my bolt, but at the same time I know what kind of welder I am
I am a sh!t welder so I took it to the local welding school and had the instructor do it, he did it for free and did a smokin job
Can't we make another forum where the bubba's can all be ignorant and circle jerk some place else?
actually the only one being ignorant is you. everyone else managed to be polite and pleasant. you should try it sometimes.
I've got to start a thread on the Zen of milsurp refinishing. The work on the
m44 was beautiful. It's your's. Do with it as you please.
I'm 60 this year and will never in my lifetime see the millions of Mosins and SKSs increase in value to a large degree. I don't care what the next generation thinks. I'll be dead. I love old milsurps for what they are but would not hesitate to change them to suit my fancy.
The term Bubba is used way to freely. The purists like to think that any alteration to an original is a bubba. The truer defenition is a rework done with a rusty hacksaw and blunt chisel. A hack job. The original posting pics on the m44 are hardly that.
I have a 49 SKS refurb with a laminated stock. The shellac looks like it was applied with a barn broom by some kindergarten art class. I intend to refinish it because I cannot stand to have an ugly gun.
I own a lovely #4 mk1 Parker Hale. A finer piece of work you would be hard pressed to find. Nobody in their right mind would call that a bubba. And yet they are a reworked Lee Enfield.
If you found a 1939 Duesenberg sitting in a field all rusted out, you would completely refinish it (if you had a LOT of money) It would then increase in value. So it's all opinion.
Stick that to the purists
m44 was beautiful. It's your's. Do with it as you please.
I'm 60 this year and will never in my lifetime see the millions of Mosins and SKSs increase in value to a large degree. I don't care what the next generation thinks. I'll be dead. I love old milsurps for what they are but would not hesitate to change them to suit my fancy.
The term Bubba is used way to freely. The purists like to think that any alteration to an original is a bubba. The truer defenition is a rework done with a rusty hacksaw and blunt chisel. A hack job. The original posting pics on the m44 are hardly that.
I have a 49 SKS refurb with a laminated stock. The shellac looks like it was applied with a barn broom by some kindergarten art class. I intend to refinish it because I cannot stand to have an ugly gun.
I own a lovely #4 mk1 Parker Hale. A finer piece of work you would be hard pressed to find. Nobody in their right mind would call that a bubba. And yet they are a reworked Lee Enfield.
If you found a 1939 Duesenberg sitting in a field all rusted out, you would completely refinish it (if you had a LOT of money) It would then increase in value. So it's all opinion.
Stick that to the purists
Although I like the look of an M38, I'm going to leave my M44 stock. I'm not a big fan of the weight the bayo adds to the front of the rifle. Shellshuckers M44 probably wasn't involved in any conflict (other than this thread) and was a good candidate for this mod in my opinion. Mine is an Izhevsk refurb and likely was used in combat. Maybe not. The following text has reinforced my stance on this M44 bayonet debate.
"Although the Soviet designed Mosin Nagant M91/30 rifle had served with distinction in The Great Patriotic War, the Soviet high command determined there was a need for a shorter and more handy bolt action service rifle for the Red Army. The savage street by street combat in cities such as Stalingrad clearly showed that a carbine length weapon would better satisfy the needs of the Red Army. While the earlier Model 1938 Carbine seemed to fill this demand, the lack of a bayonet was seen as a grave deficiency in Soviet circles. The Soviet Union was winning the war against Hitler with shear numbers of men and machines coupled with mass of attack. While the concept of soldiers with bayonets advancing in gigantic formations seemed antiquated to the militaries of the West, this philosophy was still a key factor in the Soviet order of battle. A new carbine whose bayonet would reflect this doctrine was deemed in order, and the concept behind the Model 1944 Carbine ( M44 Carbine ) was born."
"Although the Soviet designed Mosin Nagant M91/30 rifle had served with distinction in The Great Patriotic War, the Soviet high command determined there was a need for a shorter and more handy bolt action service rifle for the Red Army. The savage street by street combat in cities such as Stalingrad clearly showed that a carbine length weapon would better satisfy the needs of the Red Army. While the earlier Model 1938 Carbine seemed to fill this demand, the lack of a bayonet was seen as a grave deficiency in Soviet circles. The Soviet Union was winning the war against Hitler with shear numbers of men and machines coupled with mass of attack. While the concept of soldiers with bayonets advancing in gigantic formations seemed antiquated to the militaries of the West, this philosophy was still a key factor in the Soviet order of battle. A new carbine whose bayonet would reflect this doctrine was deemed in order, and the concept behind the Model 1944 Carbine ( M44 Carbine ) was born."
