We will be making these stocks under license. We're trying to make it a priority after our new rifles get out.
.. right after we figure out what to do with all the .300 Blackout tooling that just arrived.
Oooh, I like the sound of that.
AR 15 "spex" PDW stock
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Oooh, I like the sound of that.
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Was not the spex stuff coming from a guy that worked/ got fired from$ ATRS?
Maybe I have the wrong products?
But if not maybe ATRS has some?
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Maybe I have the wrong products?
But if not maybe ATRS has some?
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ATRS will never get a sniff at this product, that's for damn sure.
I don't want to start a pissing contest, but the Spex brand is 100% separate from ATRS.
This PDW system was designed 100% separately from anything ATRS has done, including some serious re-engineering of the AR15 internals to make it run with 100% reliability.
I'm shocked nobody is losing their mind over how short the buffer tube is on this PDW... this is the beauty of the telescopic stock in its present offering - it allows the weapon to be carried at a length roughly 8" shorter than a standard AR (this is my estimation; I may be +/- a few inches on the actual stats).
This modification does not come without serious ingenuity and serious re-engineering. I was gobsmacked at how well-built it was when I shot it.
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Ahhhh WRONG! Time will prove this. Nuff said
What will be proved wrong? That you will never have anything to do with it, or that it is 100% separate from any of your designs, or that significant re-engineering was required to make it run 100%? Or that it is well built?
I assume you're not referring to the length as that would not take time to discover.
Thats icky, I hope you washed your hands at least.
It doesn't. It works just fine with a three position selector switch.
The recoil system is unique. To my knowledge there is nothing else like it out there in the AR universe. But yes, there have been other bufferless systems before.
Where the AR based PDW really shines is in 300 Whisper (BLK). Even with a very short barrel, the round doesn't lose velocity like the 556 and it is much quieter because the Whisper burns so much less powder. So you have a compact, stealthy package that packs a hell of a wallop with from a 200 gr .30 cal bullet. Whats not to like?
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Every engineer thinks their design is the best, even if they are wrong.
Personally that is by far the ugliest stock I've ever seen on an AR, but many things require function over form.
The HK53 is my dream rifle, but I cannot own one and that makes me sad!
Personally that is by far the ugliest stock I've ever seen on an AR, but many things require function over form.
The HK53 is my dream rifle, but I cannot own one and that makes me sad!
To be CORRECT, though the idea of a short-tube AR is not new, the way this one has been implemented certainly is. I have seen the inner workings, and it is remarkably unique.
Ahhhh WRONG! Time will prove this. Nuff said
Go ahead and post pictures or drawings of the internals then, if you have even the slightest idea of how this mechanism has been re-engineered. I know you may think you know how this is all constructed, but at the end of the day you're just going to end up like a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest.
Sure isn't. Not even close.
I won't re-post the pics JGP has laid out, but there is literally nothing similar (save for a recoil spring) between the M231 and the Spex PDW's recoil mechanism.
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Really?
It looks great. How about we let the product speak for itself when it comes out.
Is NEA making the Complete Firearm? or just the Stock and Muzzle device?
Ahhhh WRONG! Time will prove this. Nuff said
It doesn't matter either way. As has been pointed out on this board and during our phone call, this is not a new concept and NEA in conjunction with with Rich and Pete have re engineered specific features on the stock so that certain deficiencies in the original prototype have been over come.
