Who the Heck still makes a good gun ?

Browning, Tikka. Best friend bought a remington 700 BDL chambered in 30-06. Took it out first time to our range. He went to the line loaded it. Took aim and fired one round and the floor plate swung open and dumped out the rest of his shells. Me being the good friend I am, pointed and laughed. Apparently it was missing a spring for the latch. He put this Detachable mag kit in it and he's says it's the best gun he's ever owned.
 
Add Sako to the list and you're golden.

I have to say, I've had nothing but praise for Savage. They stand out from the rest of the N.American stuff. Well made, accurate, and reasonably priced. The upper-end Savages are particularly nice. Just say'in.

I agree on both counts. :)

But I would still like to see a Savage tested at respected a European or Scandinavian proof testing facility.

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Winchester makes em here is my new M70 Fwt, got it last Friday, its a .270win and its under $801....
and the fit and finish is first Class. Maybe tomorrow i will get a chance to get out to the Range, i have
allready setup the scope with my new boresighter.

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Gord

that is a very nice rifle Gord.
 
i have a browning A bolt made in japan. it's a good varmint gun light weight accurate relatively smooth cycling action. gotta admit it's well made like their cars. ammunition is definetly amAArican made though lol.
 
As far as I'm concerned, my Browning A-Bolt II composite stalker with BOSS takes it hands down....lightweight, all steel (except for the stock), can shoot sub-MOA all day,not picky on ammo, magazine is clipped into a swivel floorplate so I doesn't come off accidentallyin the woods (happened to me in the past, good luck finding it in dead leaves) slick bolt action.....all that for 780$.....kinda hard to beat IMHO ;) Oh.....almost forgot to tell.......recoil is ridiculously low and can shoot it all day without having any sores :D

Just my 2 cents :)
 
New manufacture Remingtons are iffy, you buy an expensive one sure that's fine, but you buy entry level... Take a good look at the rifle and make sure you put it through it's paces before the warranty runs out. But older ones are still up to the Remington quality name
 
Winchester Model 70

X2.w:h:

Get the Rifleman's rifle. Just cut right to the chase.;)

The new FN's appear superb, though i don't own one. I have two M70's still, and have owned several pre-USRA and USRA's(1980-1992), get looking, shooting and working practical firearms. Can't complain about anything. I'm sure the M700s were great back then as well.
 
Really all depends on what your needs are. If you want a beautiful gun, that you won't be bushwacking with, then my choice would a kimber or cz. If your going to be walking for miles in lousy weather, then a tikka or sako synthetic/stainless (plastic tikka mags are featherlight and durable). If your looking for a solid gun, that is strong then I would say ruger or winchester. If your a semi auto fan, then browning bars are solid, but you sometimes encouter problems if the guns not maintaned properly, or if you hunt in wet, sub temperatures.
 
I've been reading all sorts of things about the drop in quality control at Remington...I've played with a few of the new offerings from some of these companies and for the most part accuracy isn't an issue but lets face it that old school fit and finish isn't there... I would not rank many of them any finer in fit and finish than my Stevens 200. Double the cost of the Stevens does not get you double the quality IMHO

There's your problem, stop reading the BS you find on the internet and start shooting.

Old school fit and finish wasn't always so great either. In the 60s, 70s, and 80s, fit and finish went south as labour costs went up. Modern computerized maching equipment and techniques actually started to make better finished and more accurate guns from the mid-90s and onwards.

Sounds like you already picked a rifle, so stick with the Stevens.
 
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There's your problem, stop reading the BS you find on the internet and start shooting.

Old school fit and finish wasn't always so great either. In the 60s, 70s, and 80s, fit and finish went south. Modern guns are more accurate than older ones.

Sounds like you already picked a rifle, so stick with the Stevens.

Of all things to use as a "basis" for fine shootin' irons...Remington(bad taste in mouth)!

I had sworn off ALL their offerings....not so good with the stance, added a 597 to my rimfire "compilation" and, love it to bits. Not the same thing though...it's actually "innovative" and, a fine answer to the viper.

Best advice yet...less reading and, more shootin'! You'll find "your" gem. I've given up on looking like a turd when I see a "junker" the goes on to outperform me n' my irons.
 
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