mosin nagant for a short bush gun?

The 7.62X54R has the same powder capacity as a .30/06 and is ballistically very similar. The rifle is robust and reliable, and looks good in its own way. I carried one for a while, but could never get my handloads to shoot with factory FMJs, and found the recoil objectionable, particularly in the summer when there would be only a T shirt between that wicked curved butt-plate and my shoulder; after a year or so I finally gave up on the Red beast, when I considered spending far to much money on reworking the whole thing . . . something about silk purses from sow's ears came to mind.

The prices of these rifles and the short length of the carbine version does make them appealing for a rough and tumble bush gun, but like many military rifles they do have some limitations compared to their sporting counterparts. The split bridge makes the mounting of a scope or receiver sight more difficult than it would be otherwise, although they are a good candidate for a scout scope, a pal of mine down south has one so configured. The trigger on mine was nearly atrocious, and there is no simple way to improve it as it has creep and over travel built into it, rather than the crisp two stage triggers typical of western military bolt guns. This single feature removes this rifle from the camp of anyone who is serious about marksmanship. The curved butt plate might have served well in caving in the skull of an enemy combatant, but it does no favor to the man who has to fire this thing. There is no rifle that I've fired which has given me as much recoil discomfort as the Mosen Nagant carbine, and this includes rifles up to the .500 Nitro; I often wondered what the Russian government had against their own troops when they adopted that butt plate. I suppose a Russian great coat made a pretty good recoil pad, but its little wonder they so enthusiastically adopted the little 7.62X39 and only kept the 7.63X54R for their GPMGs.
 
Well the good news is it will be restocked in a cheap plastic ATI, or a Boyds laminate, not sure which one yet. Might go with the plastic just for weight savings.

It doesn't have to be super accurate for my needs. Just some plinking, and possibly shooting bears out to 50m over bait, so realistically as long as it holds a couple inches at 50m we should be good.

For the price of these refurb 91/30's it is prolly cheaper and easier to just chop one of them then look for a M44.

Figure it should cost me less than 500 bucks all said and done to restock it, and chop it, and just move the existing site back.

I don't think there is much else I could pick up that would fit the bill for that price.

Thanks for the opinions.
 
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You've never shot one of these before, have you? Heavy round, yes. Quick cycling action and Mosin don't belong in the same sentence. As stated on the 7.62 site,

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Then you guys have issues...why can my 110 poung g/f fire off 5 shots in under 5 seconds (not really aimed tho but still fast cycling) and you cannot...?

I can do it extremely quick just using the open palm of my hand...

Some people:bangHead:
 
I've owned 4 mn rifles over the years (2 m44s and 2 91/30s). The problem with cycling is usually a lacquer in the chamber issue causing sticking. I've never encountered it, but i've heard spinning a brass brush in the chamber with a drill for a couple of seconds usually fixes the issue.

I'm also going to suggest the m44. The work required to cut, crown and add a front sight to the 91/30 will far outweigh the cost of an m44... mn's are usually within 20 or so bucks of each other
 
1953 Polish M44, unfired, still in packing grease. This is a heavy rifle. I do think it is heavier than an M14 but very nice quality. I like the sight picture better than any rifle I have ever shouldered.
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You've never shot one of these before, have you? Heavy round, yes. Quick cycling action and Mosin don't belong in the same sentence. As stated on the 7.62 site,

(E) :cool:

I disagree with a different bolt handle and an adjusted extractor mosins cycle like butter well my five do anyway
 
"The trigger on mine was nearly atrocious, and there is no simple way to improve it as it has creep and over travel built into it, rather than the crisp two stage triggers typical of western military bolt guns. This single feature removes this rifle from the camp of anyone who is serious about marksmanship." (quoted from boomers post) seriously? the mosin trigger can be easily improved with a piece of brass shim stock and 600 grit sandpaper in less than one hour. anyone with a drill press and a tap can make the trigger adjustable for length of pull in less than 20 minutes.
 
Alright just got a Polish M44 apparently in real good shape fro Epps.

Now it is between a Boyds Laminate, or the ATI Synthetic?

For weight I have to imagine the synthetic will be a lighter option.

Anyone have any experience with them?

Hical.ca tells me they are nice, but he sells em so.........

Either way they are both the same price.
 
How much? The reason I ask here is because "good luck" finding it on the Ellwood web site!

175 and he said it is in real good shape.

Apparently it hasn't been entered into inventory yet so I got lucky. I had emailed about the barrel shortening on the 91/30 and they suggested the M44 instead.

Worked out perfectly, and considering I was gonna pay 110 + chopping, recrown, and sight install, I think its a good deal.

Looking like it will be fun for cheap plinking with a larger cartridge than the sks.
 
Now it is between a Boyds Laminate, or the ATI Synthetic?

For weight I have to imagine the synthetic will be a lighter option.

I've been looking at one of the thumbhole stocks for a while now
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They're kinda pretty, and I think it might be a bit more comfortable.

I just picked up some Hornady .312" 174 grain round nose bullets.
They should be enough for anything I'm likely to shoot with them.
 
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