deer hunting with a shotgun?

Hardest part of hunting deer with a shotgun, is sucking it up and paying good cash out for ammo.

Buckshot for up close, slugs for distance as far as you can reliably hit a kill zone with. Sabot slugs for rifled barrels, 'rifled' slugs for smoothbores. Practice!

Slugs from a shotgun work very well. Lots to be said for a big heavy bullet, moving slow, as far as terminal effect is concerned, and you don't get a pile of bloodshot meat, either.

Lots of good Shotgun/Muzzleloader only zones in SK. IIRC it used to be a month of Archery, and Month of Shotgun/ML, then a month and a bit of Rifle season for deer. Made for a long hunting season with lots of opportunity to get out!

Cheers
Trev
 
The only reason I would choose a shotgun over a rifle is due to local regulations.

Usually that means close range and near or in municipalities here in BC, I don't know about other places in Canada but if they allow you to fire a single projectile (slug) then usually you can fire a rifle. I'd grab the rifle first. IMHO.
 
07blackwater said:
The only reason I would choose a shotgun over a rifle is due to local regulations.

Usually that means close range and near or in municipalities here in BC, I don't know about other places in Canada but if they allow you to fire a single projectile (slug) then usually you can fire a rifle. I'd grab the rifle first. IMHO.
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Ontario has some retarded hunting regs at least here in the South.

Caliber restrictions for rifles, allowing only up to .270 is the dumbest one for sure.

I can shoot coyotes with a .270, .243, .223, 6mm, etc. all of which are very flat shooting and can reach out much further than say a 30-30 or .44 mag which in my opinion are perfect for deer hunting and have trajectories which are much safer.

With modern slugs, especially sabots shooting out to 200m, why can't I use a 30-30 or a .44 mag?

More laws made by ignorant politicians, serving little to no purpose, solving problems that don't exist.
 
mlehtovaara said:
Deer is shotgun only.

Coyotes, and groundhogs, or other small game you can use anything up to a .270.

Somehow they think that smaller bullets are less dangerous, but fail to understand trajectory I guess.
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Controlled hunt regulations simply predate rifled barrel shotguns with rifle like ballistics becoming common for hunters. The regs are slower to evolve than technology.
 
I do a lot of hunting in a shotgun with shot only area. Single projectiles are not allowed so its buckshot for me. That being said, the bush is so thick you are right on top of the deer so having an effective range of 35 yards is not that big a handicap. We used to have a muzzle loader season here a long time ago but it was closed when some bureaucrat saw an inline with a scope and decided to shut it down. I hunt with a muzzle loading shotgun.I have found that they pattern buckshot beautifully because they are cylinder bored and do not restrict, thus compress and deform the buckshot. When this happens the buckshot scatters resulting in a poor pattern.

Cheers, Steve.
 
Scamaniac said:
Controlled hunt regulations simply predate rifled barrel shotguns with rifle like ballistics becoming common for hunters. The regs are slower to evolve than technology.
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Yup, pretty soon rifled barrels will be illegal in controlled hunts. Too much like a rifle, theres a reason why its shotgun only, now we are getting rifle like range with a shotgun, I can see that ending soon enough.
 
DVXDUDE said:
Yup, pretty soon rifled barrels will be illegal in controlled hunts. Too much like a rifle, theres a reason why its shotgun only, now we are getting rifle like range with a shotgun, I can see that ending soon enough.
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Well let's hope not. There is a huge industry built on this platform and a lot of money invested in equipment and ammo in Ontario alone. The last thing we need are more restrictions. Always know what is beyond your target regardless of type of firearm.
 
Scamaniac said:
Controlled hunt regulations simply predate rifled barrel shotguns with rifle like ballistics becoming common for hunters. The regs are slower to evolve than technology.
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But I can blast away all day long with my .243 or .270 at coyotes?

Meanwhile I can't hunt deer with a 30-30?

I know rifled slug barrels are new but the 30-30 and .270 have been around awhile.

Perfect example of how these sweeping bans are retarded. Definitely not made by knowledgable folks.
 
07blackwater said:
I truly feel sorry for you out there. That's messed.
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its only southern ontario, not the entire province. considering it sounds like WWIII around here when the controlled hunt starts, i fully support shotguns only for southern ontario. slugs and buckshot are the safer option when the bush is full of people. i wont call them hunters as it seems like most of the people (yahoo's) that take part in the controlled hunts only hunt for one week each year and it shows.

people cry about not being able to use rifles for deer around here, but i really can't understand why. we have tons of deer and its easy to tag one using a bow. shotguns make it easier and rifles would be like cheating...
 
mlehtovaara said:
But I can blast away all day long with my .243 or .270 at coyotes?

Meanwhile I can't hunt deer with a 30-30?

I know rifled slug barrels are new but the 30-30 and .270 have been around awhile.

Perfect example of how these sweeping bans are retarded. Definitely not made by knowledgable folks.
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The original safety intent was that there are many hunters in the field during a 6 day only controlled hunt. Its hardly comparable to a couple guys (or gangs) out coyote hunting on any given weekend. They are simply dated laws that may have made more sense when enacted and were intended to protect other hunters and people from the few dummies that shouldn't be allowed to carry in the first place.
 
Depending on where I am going to go for deer, I have an area that is shotgun only, and the other WMU 76A which is controlled and is rifle, we have been successful in both places and with both types of firearms.

Shotguns can do the job, they just don't reach out as far as the rifle.....

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Scamaniac said:
The original safety intent was that there are many hunters in the field during a 6 day only controlled hunt. Its hardly comparable to a couple guys (or gangs) out coyote hunting on any given weekend. They are simply dated laws that may have made more sense when enacted and were intended to protect other hunters and people from the few dummies that shouldn't be allowed to carry in the first place.
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X2, there are a ton of people who hunt deer that are not real hunters. I can remember as a kid, living in the country, having watched the guys drive up the road all bail out and just start blasting at deer in the field. (they did get off the road). If they all had rifles, the house on the other side of the field would have been full of holes.

And so you know, there is an WMU controlled deer hunt area that is still rifle.
 
mlehtovaara said:
But I can blast away all day long with my .243 or .270 at coyotes?

Meanwhile I can't hunt deer with a 30-30?

I know rifled slug barrels are new but the 30-30 and .270 have been around awhile.

Perfect example of how these sweeping bans are retarded. Definitely not made by knowledgable folks.
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coyote hunting and deer drives (what most do during the controlled hunt) are two totally different styles of hunting so you're comparing apples to oranges here. most yote hunters will sit and wait while using a call of some sort to draw the yote to them where you can usually execute a shot under somewhat controlled conditions. a deer drive consists of a group of hunters pushing deer towards the blockers and often results in shots on moving/running deer. i understand running yotes with dogs is similar to deer drives, but so few people participate in that style of hunting that it's irrelevant.

when you factor in adrenaline, a moving target, multiple people in the same bush, and the low experience of many of the controlled hunt people, it's much easier for an accident to happen. adding rifles to this equation would just make things worse.

if you really feel that you need to use a rifle with so many deer around, you better brush up on your hunting skills;) most people i talk to around here shoot their deer at ranges where you could hit the deer with a stone.;)
 
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