Williams aperture sights: group size at fifty yards?

With a rest and some practice I imagine 1" should be easy. I shoot and hunt a lot with aperature sights and consistently group between 1" and 1-1/2" at 100yds, off a rest. This is with a winchester 30-30, a husqvarna .308 and a sporterized .303.
 
Under an inch at 50 tards. I've done quirte a few cloverleafs with Winchester and Marlin .30-30's at 50. However, 2 inches would be a very good group for me at 100.
 
I just removed a brand new Williams 5D from a model 94 that I put on the rifle to see how well it would shoot. These tired old eyes of mine can still use aperture sights well enough to shoot two inch groups or better at 100 yd.

The sight will be going on the EE, as i have sold the rifle.

Ted
 
Somewhere between 1 and 3 MOA is normal. When I pull off a MOA ghost ring and post group at 300 with my .30/06, my chest puffs out and I become an insufferable ass for a week or so. You might find that light plays a critical role in your group size; overcast conditions frequently are easier to shoot in then bright sunshine, as bright sun tends to wash out one side of the bull or the height of your front sight. Light conditions where the sun ducks in and out of the clouds can be very challenging.
 
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sights are only part of the equation. The other parts are the rifle, the ammo and the nut behind the butt plate (the shooter). With the proper rifle and load I can consistantly get 1" to 1 1/2" 3 shot groups with my lever rifles at 100 yards. I haven't tried 50 yard groups. I find close groups a waste of time and ammo.
 
You should be able to manage 2" consistently at 100 yards.
But it won't be as easy as using a scoped rifle. Takes more concentration.
I find using the 6 O'clock hold a big plus in doing so, as the damned target is getting fuzzy.
 
I have two Lever actions [both Winchester 94's] Equipped with Williams Aperture sights.
My 38-55 is very accurate and shoots in the 1-1½ moa at 100 quite consistently
The 30-30 has a shorter barrel and averages just a bit larger groups.1½ - 2 moa.
Regards, Eagleye.
 
I used to use a 6:00 hold until it was pointed out to me that some light conditions can make finding the bottom of the bull uniformly a real challenge, particularly if the target is getting fuzzy due to older eyes. The center of the target is easier to find, particulary if your front blade appears to be the same width as the 100, 200, or 300 yard bull, assuming you use a round bull. If you see the bull inside the width of the front sight blade you're not centered. Switching to a center hold has improved my scores dramatically.
 
I don't use a 6 O'clock hold exactly, but do sight in so the POI is on the top edge of the bead at 100. The bead on my .458 covers 8" at 100 yards,16" at 200 and the POI will have dropped to the center of the ever expanding bead between 200 and 250 yards.

Its a way of getting a very useful trajectory out of a short range weapon.
 
With a NECG Masterpiece banded front sight and an XS Sights tall Weaver backp ghost ring rear sight mounted onto my 21" barreled Rem 700 LSS in 375RUM loaded with 350gr Barnes TSX @ 2450fps I can repeatedly put 3 shots into a cloverleaf at 50 yards.

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Disregard the lower hole in my target it is from my 14" barreled T/C Contender carbine in 45 Colt.
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I have been using an XS Sights low Weaver backup ghost ring sight on my Marlin 1895GS in 45-70 for years I can repeatedly put 6 350gr Swift A-Frames into 6" or better @ 150 yards and I now have a low Weaver backup ghost ring sight that I mount on the 45 Colt.

Just remember to keep both eyes open when using apurature sights.

I have terrible eye sight my condition is called Keraticonus I was even on a cornea replacement list due to this so if I can do this anyone can...
 
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