interesting..rough math puts Vogel ahead of LJubisa and Stoeger by approx. 58 pts at1620, 1562 and 1561. Mink is at 1567 just a few points ahead... JP is hanging in there at 1479, about 80 down. They all shot the same stages. FYI. There are a few field stages, and some mediums as well as short stages to be shot.