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So I have a personal dilemma and I'm wondering some feedback. I'm pretty sure I know where I stand but where do others on something like this.

A family member approached me the other week. This family member owns a farm and has cows, horses, and a number of smaller dogs around. They also have a few problematic or nuisance coyotes that come around.

They want me to come and get rid of the coyotes "because they are annoying".

I've never shot a coyote before nor would I have use for one if I did shoot it so it would just get tossed away or thrown in the "pit" at the farm.

Question being if you were in a similar situation what would you do?
 
They are a predator that is harrasing the farm animals ... that's reason enough for me to shoot them.

IF there is someone nearby that would like to skin them and make use of the pelts (maybe check with the local native indian reserve if there is one, or check the yellow pages and see if any local trappers want the pelts), then all the better, but it's really just a bonus that the hide might be used and not a deciding factor for me in this case.
 
Question:

In Ontario, I'm pretty sure the hunting regs forbid you from wasting the pelt of any fur-bearing mammal you shoot. Does anybody know if this regulation applies to nuisance animals like coyotes? I assume it does...
 
I've never shot an animal before, but it seems like a no-brainer to me.
Shoot tha bastards :ar15:

BTW, I thought farmers had rifles to deal with this sort of thing themselves, generally speaking.
 
Seems like most people had a different take than I did..... I just dont feel right about shooting something with no need. I can see shooting the coyotes if I could use the fur or whatever but to shoot them just to shoot them so they are dead seems a little cold. I guess when it comes to it I could find someone who would need or use the pelts..... I want them gone just as much as the next person as My kids love the dogs out at the farm.

There have already been a few run-ins (fights) where one of the dogs was bit pretty good.

keep the feedback coming as it's all pretty useful.
 
KingPin said:
...Question being if you were in a similar situation what would you do?...
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First, I would say thank you to the owner of the farm for trusting and allowing me to hunt on his land.
Second, I would plan and shoot the coyotes. All there is.
Skin them as they go. Sell the pelt and get more ammo.
Carcass goes back in the field as bait. Hunt over bait.
When all is done have nice scotch with your relatives.

I wish I had your dilemmas!
 
Beer Ogre said:
Question:

In Ontario, I'm pretty sure the hunting regs forbid you from wasting the pelt of any fur-bearing mammal you shoot. Does anybody know if this regulation applies to nuisance animals like coyotes? I assume it does...
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It depends on the province. I don't think all of them classify coyotes with other fur-bearers because they are pests.

I've heard of some trappers and some Hutterite colonies buying coyote carcasses for the hides and paying a bit more for hides alone.
 
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I used to have a live and let live attitude towards coyotes ( take the occasional pot shot) until one tried to lure our young springer spaniel away. I hold a grudge towards them now. You'd be doing the family a favor AFAIK
 
KingPin said:
Seems like most people had a different take than I did..... I just dont feel right about shooting something with no need. I can see shooting the coyotes if I could use the fur or whatever but to shoot them just to shoot them so they are dead seems a little cold. I guess when it comes to it I could find someone who would need or use the pelts..... I want them gone just as much as the next person as My kids love the dogs out at the farm.

There have already been a few run-ins (fights) where one of the dogs was bit pretty good.

keep the feedback coming as it's all pretty useful.
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I agree with the bolded statement 100% I have no problem dropping groundhogs if they are living in workable fields & damaging crops, livestock & equipment, but if they are living elsewhere, I'll leave them. Same goes for coyotes ... if they are staying in the bush, no problems - but if they are harrassing livestock and pets, then I will drop them on site.

If they have become brave enough to start tempting your dogs (usually one will draw the dog towards the pack) then they are definitely a problem and need to be dealt with.
 
IMagius said:
I agree with the bolded statement 100% I have no problem dropping groundhogs if they are living in workable fields & damaging crops, livestock & equipment, but if they are living elsewhere, I'll leave them. Same goes for coyotes ... if they are staying in the bush, no problems - but if they are harrassing livestock and pets, then I will drop them on site.

If they have become brave enough to start tempting your dogs (usually one will draw the dog towards the pack) then they are definitely a problem and need to be dealt with.
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x2 My sentiment exactly....about hogs and coyotes.
 
IMagius said:
I agree with the bolded statement 100% I have no problem dropping groundhogs if they are living in workable fields & damaging crops, livestock & equipment, but if they are living elsewhere, I'll leave them. Same goes for coyotes ... if they are staying in the bush, no problems - but if they are harrassing livestock and pets, then I will drop them on site.

If they have become brave enough to start tempting your dogs (usually one will draw the dog towards the pack) then they are definitely a problem and need to be dealt with.
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Thanks IMagius.....That puts just a different perspective to it. The thing for me is I would just rather them not waste.....before I shoot I would like to see that they are taken care of. From what I've spotted they have really nice coats so someone might appreciate them.

Thanks again guys......
 
Fur Regulations --- helpful.

as an additional item I just found this which kind of helps me out too....

* It is not legally necessary to salvage pelts of furbearing animals (includes coyote and wolf) taken in accordance with regulations authorizing control of problem wildlife. Refer to page 61 for information about seasons for coyote and wolf.

taken from --- http://www.albertaregulations.ca/huntingregs/genregs.html
 
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