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A bit early for Alberta coyotes to be worth much. I lost a dog to coyotes and it has been war since. I lost over 20 pounds getting over the loss of the dog and that was before going hunting for them almost everyday for 4 years.
If it makes you feel better, call around first and check with some local trappers, nuisance control guys - someone somewhere should know if anyone could make use of a bullter riddled coyote corpse.
Or make it a project for yourself ... use the pelt as a "learning tool" and tan it yourself and make a rug out of it ... far better to experiment and fail with it than something else.
Or make it a project for yourself ... use the pelt as a "learning tool" and tan it yourself and make a rug out of it ... far better to experiment and fail with it than something else.
Who cares? OP is not in a communist province. He's in Alberta. In Alberta coyotes are free game all year 'round with no licence. No need to save the pelt.
They are a pest. They kill livestock (I've personally seen chicken, peakcocks, puppies, and even spooked horses).
They come onto our farms and acreages late at night and terrorize the animals affecting setting. Sometimes they get in fights with our dogs.
Exterminate them with extreme prejudice.
Suka
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They are a pest, but if you want to see them utilized, once their winter coats are set (mid Jan-Feb?) they have a value. Put the dead one's in a well sealed plastic bag and toss them in a freezer.
Far as skinning them/stretching the hides, well, they're likely full of fleas and are disease carriers, so it's your call. Personally, I'm more a fan of letting the freezer kill the wee beastie's. Plus, skinning and stretching hides is a skill learned by practice and patience.
Watch the local paper and the shopper for ads to buy coyotes in late Feb./early March.
How you convince your wife about having them in your freezer is up to you though, haha.
Far as skinning them/stretching the hides, well, they're likely full of fleas and are disease carriers, so it's your call. Personally, I'm more a fan of letting the freezer kill the wee beastie's. Plus, skinning and stretching hides is a skill learned by practice and patience.
Watch the local paper and the shopper for ads to buy coyotes in late Feb./early March.
How you convince your wife about having them in your freezer is up to you though, haha.
I know what to do! Perfect solution!
Pick up knitting instead. That will keep you warm!
Hint: if you think it's a little cold, get more layers on. Secret is layering!
Exactly what I was thinking
Then some more guys droped in...
why there's enough now for a quilting bee
Exactly what I was thinking
Then some more guys droped in...
why there's enough now for a quilting bee
Thanks for the useless post...........
I'm being quite honest here -- IT seems that most people feel that shooting something just to make it dead is fine and dandy -- I on the other hand have a more utilitarian approach to life and believe that if I don't need it for something I should just leave it alone.
However, the point made earlier about prairie dogs and coyotes has me rethinking my stand on this. I've got no problem in taking out the pesky gophers to keep them from eating the crops and making holes in the ground. I have no problems going after useless badgers. Why do I have such a problem with a coyote?
beretta boy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Orillia, Ontario
Many of us in the rural areas use "Triple S" for animal control.
Shoot, Shovel & Shut-up
Shoot, Shovel & Shut-up
It could be due to their resemblance with dogs. Pet dogs that is.
And, why so serious? No one here is suggesting you do anything irresponsible, just cracking some jokes. Apologies if my posts were useless, or offended you. Chill out.
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- Kawartha Lakes, Ontario
As a hunter, I will shoot an animal for food, or to eliminate a serious pest.Thanks for the useless post...........
I'm being quite honest here -- IT seems that most people feel that shooting something just to make it dead is fine and dandy -- I on the other hand have a more utilitarian approach to life and believe that if I don't need it for something I should just leave it alone.
However, the point made earlier about prairie dogs and coyotes has me rethinking my stand on this. I've got no problem in taking out the pesky gophers to keep them from eating the crops and making holes in the ground. I have no problems going after useless badgers. Why do I have such a problem with a coyote?
Shooting groundhogs so our horses don't break a leg in their holes? No problem.
Shooting coyotes that are hanging around and picking off livestock and pets? No problem.
Shooting something for the sake of killing it? No way.
I enjoy seeing wildlife, and having it around. Unless there is a utility or necessity to killing an animal, it's just not something I have a taste for, nor do I understand others who do so.
Killing for the sake of killing - well, that just seems a bit disturbing.
I was told recently that coyote pelts winter) are fetching something like $40-50 (knowledgeable people - please correct me if I am wrong). Seems like a lot of work for a small return.
Likely only applies to winter coats.
That does seem high for a western coyote though, maybe an eastern one (taxidermy quality), they are rarer.
away.Thanks for the useless post...........
I'm being quite honest here -- IT seems that most people feel that shooting something just to make it dead is fine and dandy -- I on the other hand have a more utilitarian approach to life and believe that if I don't need it for something I should just leave it alone.
However, the point made earlier about prairie dogs and coyotes has me rethinking my stand on this. I've got no problem in taking out the pesky gophers to keep them from eating the crops and making holes in the ground. I have no problems going after useless badgers. Why do I have such a problem with a coyote?
Disagree.
This has nothing to do with utilitarian vs an animal's right to live. Right from the get go of this thread I found it funny, many others here did too. This is clearly an urban vs rural thread (especially western rural).
I know nobody where I live, except for the townies, who haven't lost a pet to a coyote. That is what they do, they will also kill livestock, especially the young. FYI: the young aren't cute and fluffy, they are food or money.
I have two large Great Pyr's to kill the cyotes, otherwise they would kill any livestock in my field because it borders the bush. So, my dogs hunt and kill them. I lose no sleep. I also lose no sleep when my three outside cats kill a mouse, I don't want the mice in my shop or my house.
The issue is the value of a coyote's life. Some city people see it as a majestic creature of the wild. Meanwhile, country people see coyotes akin to a mouse. Nobody has an issue tossing a mouse in the trash, I feel the same about a coyote. It's a predator that will kill sheep, puppies and kitties. And the ones we kill are the ones that have learned our domestic animals are easy pickings and are losing their fear of us.
And while we are at it, where I live, they run at the sight of people. And that is how it should be. If we didn't shoot them, it would be like Zombieland in the country. Those f**kers would be all over our yards killing all our animals were it not for fear.
Please don't take this offensively. I'm not trying to be offensive, but I know your delicate city sensibilities are probably going to take it this way.
Maybe instead of this endeavor you could take up sewing or bed wetting.
This kind of thing is a reality of life here in rural Alberta. You pvssy minded city slickers wouldn't last 1 week out here if you're going to wet your panties about something like this calling it a 'moral dilemma'. It's nothing.
They're terrorist pests and vermin who do real damage to all things around us. Treat them as cockroaches, rats, and fleas. Kill the fvckers. Don't be such a pvssy.
Riden, you have it exactly correct.
Just to elaborate, your mention of a coyote running away from people as being the way it should be, is completely misunderstood by city people. Coyotes are a great animal to look at, in the wild. Any of us who like and enjoy nature, have to admire a crafty coyote, or wolf, that is living in the wild and has never been spoiled by sucking up to the human welfare handouts. They are hard to see in the wild, but very sharp looking and smart.
The coyotes which have moved into an urban envirenment and are living on food, of some type, made available by humans, are a completely different animal. They have lost their sharp and crafty appearance and just slink around, seeing what humans have left for them.
For these reasons, I will shoot at any coyote or wolf, I am able to. Shooting will never, ever, eliminate, extinguish or exterminate coyotes or wolves, but the survivors will sure be a much better animal.
Just to elaborate, your mention of a coyote running away from people as being the way it should be, is completely misunderstood by city people. Coyotes are a great animal to look at, in the wild. Any of us who like and enjoy nature, have to admire a crafty coyote, or wolf, that is living in the wild and has never been spoiled by sucking up to the human welfare handouts. They are hard to see in the wild, but very sharp looking and smart.
The coyotes which have moved into an urban envirenment and are living on food, of some type, made available by humans, are a completely different animal. They have lost their sharp and crafty appearance and just slink around, seeing what humans have left for them.
For these reasons, I will shoot at any coyote or wolf, I am able to. Shooting will never, ever, eliminate, extinguish or exterminate coyotes or wolves, but the survivors will sure be a much better animal.
Wow whomever assumes that I'm a city slicker or some plain city boy is way off In left field. Just because I don't want to go out and shoot a coyote doesn't mean jack spit. Granted I've never farmed for a living might give way to certain prejudices against coyotes. My outlook on them are as nuisances and pests however having never hunted or Shot them mysf lead me to question the sport.
It seems most people are of the same mindset in that the coyotes ARE pests and can be dealt with as such. I'm okay with that. My only concern was why would I kill it I it means nothing to me. This has, IMHO been Asked and answered with the likening to gophers and rats.
I appreciate every comment. But I hope you understand this question as coming from someone who has never farmed (tho I live very rural) nor have I ever really hinted more than gophers or birds.
Tx
It seems most people are of the same mindset in that the coyotes ARE pests and can be dealt with as such. I'm okay with that. My only concern was why would I kill it I it means nothing to me. This has, IMHO been Asked and answered with the likening to gophers and rats.
I appreciate every comment. But I hope you understand this question as coming from someone who has never farmed (tho I live very rural) nor have I ever really hinted more than gophers or birds.
Tx
KinPin, if you have such thoughts and feelings about this situation, I think you should not hunt them. If you are not comfortable with it and go ahead anyway, it will come back and haunt you. Best leave it for someone with a different mindset.
Can you at least suggest your relatives another hunter that might help them?
Can you at least suggest your relatives another hunter that might help them?
