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I am going to keep this brief because the longer I think about it the crosser I get.

Short version - we went out for moose in an area we had been scouting for over a month.

First area - some donkey had parked a 32'-0 trailer 100'-0 from the best moose sign we had seen anywhere. He was too close to the spot and had no chance of getting anything in a rich area.

Second area - we get greeted by the sight of 2 half tons parked side by side blocking the effing road with maybe 3-4 kms of road to go with crown land on all sides.

Third area - Another donkey blocking another road. This time with a horse box and a half ton. "Are you locals?...Yep...Well we got two guys down there tracking a cow and calf." No response from us other than wondering if he had brought his own moose with him in the horse box and we just buggered off back to camp and blasted birdies for the weekend. This donkey was blocking maybe 20km more road with crown land on all sides.

We used to give the American hunters crap for treating the Northern Ontario bush like their own personal back yard, but the guys that still come up are on the whole great guys. These utter utter #######s from Southern Ontario (Yes ussin bumpkins can read the stickers on your trucks and horse box and ussin bumpkins can read a map) block the damn public road leading to crown land off and then chuck their garbage all over the place. Clean up after yourself and if you know how a book operates then read up about access to crown land and interfering with another persons hunt.

What.would.you.have.done?
 
In my mind, I would wait around to see if they need a hand changing all of their flat tires. Offer to drive them to town to get some new ones, for a price of course.

In reality, walk away and curse the dumb arses!
 
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.....time to get a new hunting rig!
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Well I do agree with you :wave:

I am one of those southern Ontario guys that goes north to hunt moose but I'm certainly not from the city. I can say that (some of?) the "locals" can be less than hospitable in the north as well.

We setup our camp this year near the end of a logging road/trail - right on the old road. There was plenty of room on either side of our tent to get around with a vehicle if someone really wanted to drive the remaining 50 yards to the dead end. In fact, we parked one of our vehicles behind the tent. We setup at the end of the road because the land is too swampy in this area.

A group of "locals" came with their side-by-side and yelled and screamed at us, took pictures of our license plates and made veiled threats while holding their firearms. They told us they were calling the fish cops too. It was quite the welcoming committee. Funny - the fish cops didn't show up any of the 9 days we were there.

A bit of advise perhaps - you may find people easier to get along with when you are friendly and easy to get along with.

I agree that someone blocking a traveled road is not cool. However, just because you scouted an area that had sign doesn't mean someone can't camp there.

I've personally had it with "locals" that think that crown land is their area just because they live nearby and have hunted there for X number of years.

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I feel your pain. It got so bad one year I didn't bother goin out moose hunting for the first 2 weeks. Too many "city-ots" runnin around like they own the place. This really makes my blood boil. But what really throws me into a blinding rage is to see all the crap they leave behind in the bush! How hard is it to either burn garbage or whip out a garbage bag and take it with ya!

Its not just southerners I've seen do this either. I see lots of people from northern cities (ie. Thunder Bay) littering the bush with their junk!
 
At least theyre out their hunting and they are firearns owners. A had a bunch of trouple this weekend with guys just riding atv trails and camping giving me a hard time about killing poor defensless birds. What a bunch of idiots.
 
Over crowded hunting and bone heads have caused me to greatly change my hunting. Long weekends, season openers in popular areas, and well known locations are all avoided like the plague. I actually spend most of my time very close to home in what I call middle areas. These are often pockets that are over looked. Many guys like to drive far away for expeditions and others just like to road warrior around town. Middle areas are between 20 min to 45 min drive out of town.

Even these areas get a little crowded in rifle season so I take full advantage of bow and black powder seasons. Also, I go out on weekday evenings a lot and avoid mornings if I can in rifle season as well.

I am lucky to be able to do this. So far I've spent Sept/Oct hunting and have not seen one single other hunter. To me that is awesome and really makes hunting enjoyable. One tag is filled and with a little luck the other will be too before rifle season. Then I just tag along with others and push brush or spot and don't even bring my gun. That way when we meet the bone heads it doesn't bother me much.

Walk a little further, talk to more land owners in the summer months, look for middle areas that get passed, and avoid weekends and busy times like the plague if you can. Other than that you just need to take it as it comes and try not to burst a vein in your head when you run into the citiots. When I was a kid I remember trucks actually racing out of town to be the first in on an area. I'm just not doing that any more. When a hunting trip ends up looking like a 70% off sale at a ladies shoe store it is time to quit. Or find another hidden area.
 
Best thing we've ever done: Buy 150 acres.
Our family's own piece of paradise.

In the 20 or so years we've owned it, we've had to chase the odd trespassers off but not very often maybe 3 or 4 times. It is very, very well posted.
 
The thing that worries me the most about densely hunted areas are where you have a bunch of guys drinking from sunup to 3am. The thoughts of being shot by a drunken idiot doesn't sit well on my stomach.
 
powdergun said:
Over crowded hunting and bone heads have caused me to greatly change my hunting. Long weekends, season openers in popular areas, and well known locations are all avoided like the plague. I actually spend most of my time very close to home in what I call middle areas. These are often pockets that are over looked. Many guys like to drive far away for expeditions and others just like to road warrior around town. Middle areas are between 20 min to 45 min drive out of town.

Even these areas get a little crowded in rifle season so I take full advantage of bow and black powder seasons. Also, I go out on weekday evenings a lot and avoid mornings if I can in rifle season as well.

I am lucky to be able to do this. So far I've spent Sept/Oct hunting and have not seen one single other hunter. To me that is awesome and really makes hunting enjoyable. One tag is filled and with a little luck the other will be too before rifle season. Then I just tag along with others and push brush or spot and don't even bring my gun. That way when we meet the bone heads it doesn't bother me much.

Walk a little further, talk to more land owners in the summer months, look for middle areas that get passed, and avoid weekends and busy times like the plague if you can. Other than that you just need to take it as it comes and try not to burst a vein in your head when you run into the citiots. When I was a kid I remember trucks actually racing out of town to be the first in on an area. I'm just not doing that any more. When a hunting trip ends up looking like a 70% off sale at a ladies shoe store it is time to quit. Or find another hidden area.
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Such a shame so many people are into hunting...come on its 2011!!! Why is it so popular still...we need to fix this!!!
 
The Thunder Bay area gets a lot of souther Ontario hunters opening weekend. You can always tell them by the massive motor homes towing 4 quads, or brand new F350's towing 4 quads....Always 4 quads though :)
 
If I found myself on a remote public road with a vehicle blocking my access, I would move it off the road myself with the 12,000lb winch mounted to the front of my truck. I don't guarantee the owner will have an easy time getting his vehicle back onto the road though.
 
Blocking roads is never a good idea and I would make my emotions on the subject very well known to the owners of the vehicles.

BUT....I must say that this stuff happens both ways. I now live in NW AB but I grew up in S. ON and we used to travel north to hunt moose. One year we set up camp in a new area that we stumbled into the previous year...Same situation as was described a few posts ago. We were off to the side of a dead end logging road...we were able to get our vehicles past our camp to extract our bull :) but on day 3 or so another group of hunters came on down the trail. They referred to themselves as locals and that this was their spot. There was one woman in the group who was totally flying off the handle. After explaing to them that we stumbled onto this spot just like anyone else and that it is crown land and that we will not be packing up to make room for them, they made their way out of there and we didn't run into them again.
 
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