Parkerize Duracote or Arma coat?

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Hey guys i have a 870 that i take out camping alot but also use it for action shotgun, its an 870 so inherintly rusts rediculousely bad inside and out and i am looking for the best method to "weatherproof" it, now i no there is the nickel marine model but i do not want that so input on personal experience with either of the coatings listed above is what i need an also possible shops or persons you may no of that will do this without bending me over would be great!!! Thanks in advance.

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Any of the bake on finishes are pretty tough if applied correctly, I like Gunkote myself. Parkerizing is cool if you like that look, and scratches seem to wipe away. You need to apply oil to the parkerized finish regularly to maintain the rust resistance, particularly if you're inclined like to spray out the inside with Breakclean.
 
Armacoat and Duracoat while pricey, are both great products and easy to use, provided you have a spray gun. A cheaper alternative is to get a can of AlumaHyde. It is epoxy based as well and S&J Hardware (found on this board) sells them for about $25 plus shipping per can. Armacoat (Arma-Coat Finishes) can be found here also and they will paint your gun but I do not know what they charge for that service. Duracoat will most likely have to be ordered from the US.
 
cerakote is the most durable. Brownells will ship the non-aerosol version here. All the coatings mentioned are better when applied over new parkerizing. I've used armacoat and its not something I would recommend. I have a 90% full bottle of grey if you want to try it...
 
J.P. said:
cerakote is the most durable. Brownells will ship the non-aerosol version here. All the coatings mentioned are better when applied over new parkerizing. I've used armacoat and its not something I would recommend. I have a 90% full bottle of grey if you want to try it...
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What is it about the armacoat that you didn't like?
 
The problem is that i dont have enought time never mind the skills to pull this off, I kyloned an upper and a lower it came out good but this stuff yeesh im not ballsy enough to go at it my self, anyone have experience with murdoc and his Armcoat?
 
mikecat7 said:
The problem is that i dont have enought time never mind the skills to pull this off, I kyloned an upper and a lower it came out good but this stuff yeesh im not ballsy enough to go at it my self, anyone have experience with murdoc and his Armcoat?
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Haven't ever heard of a bad experiance with Murdoc except that he does crazy good work and well worth the $$$. I think he has done atleast 1/4 of all of my rifles. Trust me thatz alot.
 
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ADK said:
Armacoat and Duracoat while pricey, are both great products and easy to use, provided you have a spray gun. A cheaper alternative is to get a can of AlumaHyde. It is epoxy based as well and S&J Hardware (found on this board) sells them for about $25 plus shipping per can. Armacoat (Arma-Coat Finishes) can be found here also and they will paint your gun but I do not know what they charge for that service. Duracoat will most likely have to be ordered from the US.
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Hi - Where on here can i find the alumahyde ?? S&J Hardware are where at ??
Thks I appreciate the help ! Jim :)
 
remington jim said:
Thks for the web site ! Have you or anyone used the alumahyde coatings- are they fairly durable or ? it is certainly cheap enough - thks JIM :)
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Certainly durable enough for the price. I'm not sure off hand if you can bake the AlumaHyde but if you can that can only help strengthen the paint if I recall correctly.
 
I have seen some comparisons of wear between dura coat and alumahyde and they dont come close but duracoat is expensive and the process is precise it looks like. I have no idea were i heard this i cant remember but im pretty sure i heard someone mention at some point baking in vaseline? dont take my head off for this one please cou: lol
 
I have never heard of baking with vaseline LOL. But then I'm far from an expert so maybe it's legit. Yep Duracoat is not cheap but it is a fine product, and it does go on nicer than Alumahyde.
 
Baking just about any kind of grease into your Parkerized finish will make it much more corrosion and scratch resistant than oiled, let alone dry Parkerizing.

The heavier and waxier the grease you use the better, Vaseline would probably work well if you didn't mind reapplying it occasionally but Cosmoline would be my first choice.

I would take properly treated Parkerizing over any of the superpaints, the paints might be a little more scratch resistant but grease saturated Parkerization is probably the most corrosion resistant gun finish out there other than maybe Nitrocarburizing or Nickel Boron.
 
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870P said:
Baking just about any kind of grease into your Parkerized finish will make it much more corrosion and scratch resistant than oiled, let alone dry Parkerizing.

The heavier and waxier the grease you use the better, Vaseline would probably work well if you didn't mind reapplying it occasionally but Cosmoline would be my first choice.

I would take properly treated Parkerizing over any of the superpaints, the paints might be a little more scratch resistant but grease saturated Parkerization is probably the most corrosion resistant gun finish out there other than maybe Nitrocarburizing or Nickel Boron.
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Excellent info Guys Thks Jim :cheers:
 
Did two 870's in Duracoat within the last 3 years.
Both over parkerizing.
Sprayed it out of my son's model airplane battery powered airbrush.
Like anything else - prep is important.
Both turned out well and have sustained normal bumps and scrapes and are no worse for wear.
L
 
I am wondering on pure rust resistance characteristics if parkerizing is the best way to go then possibly throwing on a coat of duracoat or some other type of coating.
 
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