How to properly(and easily) haul moose out of the bush

MiG25 said:
ethics and laws are slippery. at one time, baiting grizzly was THE WAY to hunt them, now it is illegal and considered unethical.

lots of people now consider things like trunting and electronic calls unethical, even though they are legal for some game..

beef is cheaper than helicopter time.

how about a waiver of sorts, helicopters can be used, but the horns have to be turned in.
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as a family that eats only wild meat and free range chickens I'd sooner pay more for better and not eat the store bought stuff... funny thing is, we farm near 200 head of red angus and dont even eat our own beef.
 
There's still lots you can do in the bush to get your moose or animal out. Make a bridge or a raft out of some logs if ur animal is in the water so u can atleast get a rope on it. I agree there's lots you can do. I'm just sayin if you do choose to use a chopper, be smart about and u better have $$$$
 
Hunting here on the island, I carry aprox 400' of rope in my truck. Some of the areas I hunt have some steep cliffs. So if I was in the situation where my deer or bear had ran and ran/fell down a cliff or embankment my plan is to clime/repell down as nessesary with tarp or canvas painting drop sheet, field dress, cape or behead as nessesary, wrap carcus in tarp or sheet, and use the truck to pull it out.
 
MudChucker said:
as a family that eats only wild meat and free range chickens I'd sooner pay more for better and not eat the store bought stuff... funny thing is, we farm near 200 head of red angus and dont even eat our own beef.
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there should be little to no difference between farm beef (not feedlot) and most wild meat. they eat most of the same stuff around here anyways.

i don't buy grocery store beef either.
 
Qhergt said:
I carry aprox 400' of rope in my truck, and use the truck to pull it out.
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I also carry a plethora or rope, two snatch blocks and a gas winch when i go moose hunting..Saved alot of time, and back work going this route..

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Amphibious said:
in BC this loophole has been tried. it doesn't fly. you'll get slapped HARD by transport canada and Fish & Game. the hunt ends when you get your meat home or to the butcher. although, I have hear of guys having equipment for a hunt heli'd in during the summer. apparently this is legal. but once the hunt starts, in BC, no helicopters.
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Hi Amphibious could you reference the Transport Canada Regulation which states it is illegal to air lift a moose or any other game animal?
That is some pretty amazing hunting pictures you posted and you are very lucky to have the health and opportunity to take part. Many people would never have a chance to participate in a hunt like that.
 
I'd have to reference the CARs, and i'm not ready to go to sleep just yet. But you would not find anything saying game meat in the CARs, but it would come under 'illegal cargo', as it's against the law in BC to carry game meat by helicopter during a hunt. I'll have to dig it out. it may not even be in the CARs, it may be under other transportation acts.
 
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Amphib - are you thinking of S.27(2)(b) of the Wildlife Act?

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27 (1) A person who discharges a firearm or wounds or kills wildlife from a motor vehicle or from a boat that is propelled by a motor commits an offence.

(2) A person commits an offence if the person

(a) hunts wildlife from an aircraft, or

(b) uses a helicopter for the purposes of transporting hunters or game, or while on a hunting expedition,

except as authorized by regulation.

(3) A person who herds or harasses wildlife with the use of a motor vehicle, aircraft, boat or other mechanical device commits an offence.

(4) A person who hunts game within 6 hours after being airborne in an aircraft, other than a regularly scheduled commercial aircraft, commits an offence.
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i just had a look at the CARs and couldn't find it, yet I seem to remember some regulatory issues with transporting illegal cargo. so say you're caught smuggling drugs, they can pull your licence, etc. I've never been very good with Air Law, lucky I fly in Class-G middle of nowhere 99% of the time.
 
The reason I ask is in Ontario and the NWT (I am sure in other provinces as well) I have seen the MNR or private companies move animals using Helicopters. For example I think it was Canadian Helicopters who use to move problem polar bears for the oil rigs. If it was against the CAR’s (which is as you know federal across the country and not provincial) I am sure they would not do it. I am sure in BC the MNR has moved animals with a helicopter. But then again they are not moving the animals for another reason than hunting so the reference supplied from the BC hunting laws probably do not apply.
 
I like the idea... if it saves the meat from being spoiled on those warm days.

Sad truth is I could not afford it.:(

We had to work all day and night to get a few out over the years, but in the end it was worth working hard for.:cool:
 
well Ill stand behind Anphibs hunting ability, like 3 weeks after knee surgery #2 if I remember correctly:
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or teaching a youngster to shoot shotgun
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funny thing is often its the guy calling everyone else out that never shares a real hunting photo :rolleyes:

as for the chopper...meh whatever I dont think its right either but then its not in my hunting camp ;)
 
Amphibious said:
First off, if you NEED vertical lift to recover your moose you screwed up. why did you shoot a moose in such an inaccessible location? why did you shoot a moose when you could not ensure the follow-up shots needed to prevent it from getting to such a location could be made? why are you so lazy

i would say, the guy that shot that moose did not screw up. that was a pretty nice bull in my books, and maybe the hunter only had one chance to get the bull? i know i wouldnt hesitate to shoot a bull of that size in some deep swamp if i knew that i could get it vertically lifted out of the swamp.
but saying any person that doesnt ensure before hand if he/she has a perfect follow-up shot screwed up doesnt make sense at all. how often do you hear of a bow hunter, or even someone with a rifle get off a nice solid follow-up shot in dense bush, when the animal is running? just a question to ponder on.
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Heres the story. Buddy flew his float plane out to a remote area. He was bowhunting and shot the moose. The moose was so big his float plane couldn't take off with all the weight. He contacted the MNR and they helped him out. That is a MNR helicopter hauling that moose.

Hopefully this will clear up all the haters who think that this is immoral. It was the only way to ensure no spoilage and was carried out with full consent from the ministry of natural resources.
 
Amphibious said:
How much of a fat, lazy, a**hole does someone have to be to have your animal helicoptered out? Why not just have someone shoot it for you too, or tie it to a tree? The laws are in place to preserve the spirit of a fair chase hunt. It also prevents you from getting dropped off at 9000' and shooting a trophy sheep/goat without any effort.
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My excact same thoughts... c'mon!

I hope the hunting gods never let him harvest another moose.
 
Potshot21 said:
Heres the story. Buddy flew his float plane out to a remote area. He was bowhunting and shot the moose. The moose was so big his float plane couldn't take off with all the weight. He contacted the MNR and they helped him out. That is a MNR helicopter hauling that moose.

Hopefully this will clear up all the haters who think that this is immoral. It was the only way to ensure no spoilage and was carried out with full consent from the ministry of natural resources.
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There is a hole (or two) in this explanation.

If this moose was so big, why wasn't an attempt at quartering the beast, and taking whatever amount of trips required, flown out by the owner of the float plane? :confused:
 
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