Need help to find some 7.62X39 and 54R

[ben777lemay]

Hi all,
I have a project in mind...
I want to find different brands of ammo to make a comparative test with a M39 SAKO Mosin Nagant and a Ruskie 55/56 SKS.
Hmm... Maybe well trow in a CZ858 and PU scoped Mosin... Well see !!!
The calibers i'm looking for is ( of course ) 7.62X39 and 7.62X54R ( and 53R if possible ).
I will take the winter trying to find them all...
I know thats not gonna be easy.

Don't tell me you should reload... No i wont reload 7.62X39, IMO its not worth the effort !!!

Here is my checklist of X39* :

- Surp. Czech : X
- Surp. Russian :
- Surlus Polish :
- Surplus Yugo 124 gr FMJ M67 :
- Golden Tiger FMJBT 12X gr : X
- Silver Bear SP 125 gr : X
- Golden Bear :
- Brown Bear :
- Barnaul FMJ 12X gr :
- Norinco Yellow Boxes : X
- Wolf 124 gr FMJ Mil-Spec :
- Ulyanovsk 122 gr FMJ :
- Privi Partisan SP :
- PRVI SP :
- MFS 12X gr FMJ :
- MFS 125 gr SP : X
- ARMCO ??? gr Ball : X
- Tula 124gr SP : X
- Tula 122gr FMJ : X
- Other ###X :

So as you can see i only have 8 found...Yet !!!

True or False ??? Silver/Brown/Golden Bear ammo is made by Barnaul ???
L@@K at the bottom on the box...
Sry for the crappy pic...

But those Silver Bear wear a SoftPoint bullet... I know they made some with 12X grains FMJ bullets.


Here is my 7.62X54 checklist :

- Barnaul SP 203 gr : X
- MFS SP 203 gr : X
- Surp. Russian : X
- Surp. Yugo :
- Surp. Czech Silver Tip : X
- Surp. ###XX :
- Ulyanovsk 148 gr FMJ : X
- Ulyanovsk 18X gr :
- D166 Finnish 7.62X53R :
- Sellier & Bellot 180gr SP : X
- LVE 200 gr SP : X
- LVE 148 gr FMJ : X
- Other ###XX :
- Other ###XX :

Here the 9 brands i found :

Some have told me you just can't find Barnaul ammo in Canada...L@@K what i found !!! The phone number is on the box if you want to import them... But i think the guy will talk in russian...

So any help will be appreciated...
I'm looking for about 20-40 cartridges from each brand...
Maybe some collectors can help me ???
Special thanks : *Slim-Jim ,*Ammo Dépot RDL,*WestRifles and Weimajack !!!

 

[boltonscouter]

Where did you find the Golden Tiger & the Silver Bear 7.62x39 ???
By the way ..... there's also Privi Partisan 7.62x39 soft point ammo. Brass case, boxer primed reloadable ..... just so you know!

 

[mlehtovaara]

Where did you find the Golden Tiger & the Silver Bear 7.62x39 ???
By the way ..... there's also Privi Partisan 7.62x39 soft point ammo. Brass case, boxer primed reloadable ..... just so you know!

I was thinking the same.

Me thinks he's cross border shopping.

I can buy surplus 7.62 x 54 x 440 for $110, and Brown Bear 7.62 x 54 x 200 for $90 in Buffalo, but don't wanna risk the BS.

 

[Pig4000]

Gun shows are your best bet

 

[Travis Bickle]

Don't forget the Sellier & Bellot 7.62 X 54R

 

[ben777lemay]

Where did you find the Golden Tiger & the Silver Bear 7.62x39 ???

*Ammo Dépot RDL* in prov. of Quebec, the guy use (FRAUD ALERT) + other payment options and ship... His name : Hans Dumont : meo5046@hotmail.com

By the way ..... there's also Privi Partisan 7.62x39 soft point ammo. Brass case, boxer primed reloadable ..... just so you know!

I added them to my list thx.

I was thinking the same.

Me thinks he's cross border shopping.

Maybe... I know a guy, he buy some ammo at the States and cross them legaly without any problem...

Gun shows are your best bet

Good idea !!! Should find some there !!!

Don't forget the Sellier & Bellot 7.62 X 54R

I added those to my list thx.

 

[ben777lemay]

bump

 

[MosinNagantM44]

Put prvi on your list.

 

[ben777lemay]

Put prvi on your list.

Prvi 150gr SPBT 7.62X54 ????

 

[MosinNagantM44]

prvi 7.62x39

 

[fiddler]

Prvi 150gr SPBT 7.62X54 ????

yes.


Don't forget to look at PRVI soft points in x39, Nasty accurate. Westrifle has LVE x54R both in soft points and fmj. They shoot quite well, even a bit better than MFS.

Depending on importer, MFS has most calibers in SP and fmj.

 

[westrifle_sks]

and in FMJ

Thank you fiddler for kind words

By the way LVE (novosibirsk cartridge plant ) is number one in Russia by volume who produces 7.62x54 . Mostly for Russian military and special forces. One brand of i think Brown Bear or Golden bear is produced there as well and packaged for that company. Wolf Ammo is another purchaser of LVE products.
Please add those to the list I bet many will be surprised when they shoot it for the first time.

You can see full list of products offered in Canada here : http://www.westrifle.com/online/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2

yes.


Don't forget to look at PRVI soft points in x39, Nasty accurate. Westrifle has LVE x54R both in soft points and fmj. They shoot quite well, even a bit better than MFS.

Depending on importer, MFS has most calibers in SP and fmj.

 

[ben777lemay]

By the way LVE (novosibirsk cartridge plant ) is number one in Russia by volume who produces 7.62x54 . Mostly for Russian military and special forces. One brand of i think Brown Bear or Golden bear is produced there as well and packaged for that company. Wolf Ammo is another purchaser of LVE products.
Please add those to the list I bet many will be surprised when they shoot it for the first time.

Really !!! I added them to my listing...

I made some search and found about 10 items on my lists so i will order them in about 1 or 2 weeks...

Cauz this week i found the perfect riffle to test 7.62X54 accuracy : a nice M39 Mosin Nagant...made by SAKO...
But i have to pay it so the ammo will w8

And for the 39* i will use my 1955/56 Tula SKS


Thx guys for the replys, i really appreciate it !!!

 

[sergey96]

Good luck We will wait for update

 

[ben777lemay]

Hey Sergey96, will you sell me just a box or two of those ammo ???
Cauz i only see them in big packages on the site !!!

I just can't buy 200-500 of each brand
That will cost me an arm and a leg and eat alot of room in my ammo safe

 

[ben777lemay]

This is the riffle i will test the 7.62 ammos...
My match number 1955/56 Tula SKS :

For now i only added the TechSight sight ( from Hical.ca ) and a Tapco mag.
Today i received the apperture kit and a bolt buffer from Techsights.
I also ordered a Timbersmith Monte-Carlo stock and a Trigger/mag release Wolf spring kit... Should have it in a week or two !!!
Then i will make a *Standard* trigger job on that thing.
Should be a gr8 shooter

 

[ben777lemay]

I just came back from the Gunshow and l@@k what i found...

7.62X54 :
I bet those are Czech Silver Tip...

And i found those. The guy told me they are Russian but what do you think ?
They look like new ammo and the Russian Surplus i already have seem to be much older...

7.62X39 :

Finally i found Norinco ammo and its NOT from CanadaAmmo...

Some MFS SP...

And finally i found those strange ball ammo...
I think they are reloadable.

Now i can put few X on my list...

 

[ben777lemay]

Ok my tester 7.62x54 Mosin Nagant is in the mail... should have it next week.

I will also order every ammo i found in Canada...
The winter is gonna be long

 

[RMM]

It would be interesting if you added an SVT-40 in to the mix.

 

[ben777lemay]

It would be interesting if you added an SVT-40 in to the mix.

That will be a great idea if one of my friend buy one.
I think that SVT40 will be less accurate than my new finnish SAKO M39 M/Nagant but interesting to see what is best in a SVT ( feeding, reliability... )
If my friend buy one we will test both two riffles ( 10 rounds each ) and if he don't buy it i'll test all the 54R with the M/N...
Sounds good ???

And for the 39, another of my friend still have a nice scoped cz58 on hand...
Maybe we will make all the tests with my sks and his cz... ( 10 rounds each )

What you guys think of that ???