Starting Out Equipment

I started out with the lee 50th anniversary kit and wish I would have just bought the press alone.I love the press but upgraded scales to a lyman digital,The powder measure works alright but is not the greatest and would like to upgrade it,I dont even use the safety prime system cause it actually goes faster by hand.I thought I could start out for $149.99 + tax +dies and have everything I needed to get started but after scale,book,caliper etc it was closer to $600.But after getting into it I wonder now why I didnt start years ago.My reloads are far more accurate and cheaper than factorys so I have done alot more target pratice in the last year than the last 5 years combined and I think become a better shot.

This is great advice. I was going to even ask, should I get the set or buy individual pieces? I know from experience with cameras (I work as camera tech) that kits are usually not the way to go. piece by piece.

I want to understand something. If I get a turret press, I can still operate it as a single stage correct? The difference is that all the dies are just set in place at the top and I don't have to swap each one out. Is this correct or am I missing something?
 
Most stuff can be found used locally. There's always someone upgrading or that's packed it in. Here, Buysell, Kijiji, local hunting forums are some of the places I've pieced my set up together. And as mentioned before, if you have questions just ask. There's a zillion years of experience here. Someone uses/has used/hated/loves any piece you may be curious about. My thoughts on starting with a turret press(have one but haven't used yet) is that there's lots of "extra' pieces when your just starting up. Lots of the companies that make reloading equipment have A+ warranties so buying used isn't that much of a crap shoot. Lots of stories of this on this forum.
Clint
 
If I get a turret press, I can still operate it as a single stage correct? The difference is that all the dies are just set in place at the top and I don't have to swap each one out. Is this correct or am I missing something?

If you get a Lee Turret (preferably Classic model), yes. Other brands, I can't comment as I haven't used them.

Nothing terribly wrong with a Turret kit, it works, but included is not the best powder scale.

I prefer buying ala carte. Classic Turret, Safety Prime, Pro-Auto Disk powder measure, RCBS 505 scale (bit more money than Lee, but if you're in a budget the Lee will work fine)
 
If I bought a Lee Kit I'd buy the 50th Anniversary kit.

If I wanted individual stuff I'd get the Lee Classic Cast single Stage press and other parts, of for Turret the Lee Classic Turret (also made of cast iron) and other parts.

Lyman 49th manual or Lee 2nd or both to start
 
And again...

There are two routes.

The first has already been mentioned and is the cheapest - the Lee Loader. It produces perfectly good ammo, but trades effort for cost and each round takes longer to produce. On the order of $50 per calibre. You will need a hammer and a solid surface like a concrete floor or work desk to use it on.

Then there are the conventional presses, ones that mount on a workbench and use compound leverage to make things easier and faster. There are three basic types.
  • The single stage machines do one thing at a time and you have to change the dies for every new process. It's where most people start and many if not most never feel they need more.

  • Turret presses are much the same except all the dies are mounted together in a plate that can simply be turned to bring them into play one after the other. They are rather more convenient once set up; cost of course is rather greater.

  • Progressive machines are essentially automatic - once set up and filled, you get a round of ammo every time you crank the handle. They are more complex and decidedly more expensive and probably more than you need unless you are firing a lot of ammo on a regular basis. (If you do, on the other hand, single-stage or turret presses probably aren't up to what you need.)
Any of these presses can be used to reload any normal cartridge (leaving out rimfire, pinfire and .50 BMG, ie).

Stuff to get on top of that?

Before you buy anything else. Two books:

  • As noted, ABCs of Reloading is an excellent introduction to reloading. Large paperback. You'll save a lot of time, effort and money by spending a night or two digesting this before you buy anything else. It's only lack is that it does not have many 'recipes'; for that you will need...

  • a reloading manual put out by one of the major component manufacturers (none of them are bad). Read it before you actually start reloading. Until you get some experience, I wouldn't take any loads off the net.

Asides from the press, powder, bullet and primers (assuming you have saved brass), you must get:

• a workbench of some sort. It can be custom built, a folding work-mate or even a way to use your kitchen counter, but you must have something reasonably solid.

• dies and a shell holder for the calibre(s) in question. To reload more calibres, you need only buy more dies and (perhaps) shell holders.

• scales. Electronic or balance.

• a reloading block - a tray to hold your cases as you work through the process. You can buy them or make them with a piece of 2x6 and a drill press.

• a legal way to store primers and powder. Lockable box with EXPLOSIVES written on the outside is the starting point.

• a book of some sort to record your efforts so you can tell what works and what doesn't. You can buy specially-printed ones but a school notebook works just as well

• good lighting. If your reloading place isn't bright, buy a cheap gooseneck lamp. I got mine (a floor model) at Ikea - it's flex neck allows me to put the light where it is needed

• often overlooked - safety googles and a fire extinguisher. Chicken Little only has to be right once. Besides, they create an reassuring aura in the eyes of spouses and landlords.


'Should-have-but-not-critical' stuff:

• powder measure. It dumps a measured volume of propellant.

• powder trickler (the 'throw low and trickle up' concept is useful for high accuracy loads)

• small flashlight

• accurate calipers and, if you've the inclination, a micrometer.

• a primer pocket resizing tool (different kinds) and primer crimp remover if you are trying to reload military ammo cases

• automatic primer feed, strip or tube, to avoid having to handle individual primers


'Nice-to-have' stuff:

• primer pocket cleaner

• magnifying glass

• a small funnel for pouring powder into cases

• tumbler. You can reload without one, but asides from making things shiny, they also make it easier to examine your brass for cracks, etc

• I found the lube pad that came with my first kit messy and the lube provided with it a pain to clean off the cases. I dropped $6 on a tiny tin of Imperial Sizing Die Wax. Tap one of your fingers lightly on the wax and roll the case between your fingers. Much less messy and it lasts almost forever.

• case trimmer. You'll need it eventually, especially if reloading hot ammo

• a deburring tool to 'round off' neck edges, especially after trimming.

• bullet puller. Everybody makes mistakes. Most people use a kinetic one, shaped like a hammer.


Some things you won't need until you really need them, and that will be on a Saturday night, 15 minutes before the store closes and in the middle of a blizzard:

• a couple of spare depriming pins for your diesy

• a stuck case remover.

You can get both for under $10 and they'll save you a lot of grief

Very nice info, Atom. However second post was about the Lee hand press NOT the Lee Loader. I love my hand press. Work up a round at the range, neck size the fired casings, reload with the proper recipe, shoot for confirmation, all without going home and back.
 
This is great advice. I was going to even ask, should I get the set or buy individual pieces? I know from experience with cameras (I work as camera tech) that kits are usually not the way to go. piece by piece.

I want to understand something. If I get a turret press, I can still operate it as a single stage correct? The difference is that all the dies are just set in place at the top and I don't have to swap each one out. Is this correct or am I missing something?

You got your answer on the Lee Turret press.
I'd strongly recommend one of them :)
Get an extra turret too....about $12 or so.
It's easy to swap them out & allows me to leave my 223s set for max accuracy with-out spending the time adjusting. I use the other turret to swap other die sets in & out that don't get used as often.

As for a Kit, you usually get a bunch of stuff you don't or won't need or use.
Pick out the best componets from recommendations here & piece together exactly what you need!
 
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